Suresh, Ringing in the ears is explained as due to a 'weak kidney' in Chinese medicine. How much truth in it? It can be cured by taking a 'kidney tonic'. the organ 'kidney' is more than one that controls uration. It is the 'life basis'. Don't just look at it anatomy wise. It is associated with the whole system of circulation of 'chi', that suport life and health. If you don't believe it, just regard it as the 'Arabian Nights'. However, it has a lot of practicality. On the other hand, a Tibetan theory says that it is not bad to have ringing ears. Once it stops, be careful to expect death. It is the first time I have heard it relate to Buddha nature. Anthony
________________________________ From: SURESH JAGADEESAN <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2012, 21:13 Subject: Re: [Zen] boiling blood to make the good oil! * Edger Do not be scared. No serpent's hiss. It is hiss of god. God has happened in you. He loves you, hence he is available to you. All you have to do is direct your meditation in it. Enjoy Meditation. Best wishes Suresh On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Edgar Owen <[email protected]> wrote: This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! ([email protected]) Add cleanup rule | More info > > >Or was that the cosmic serpent's hiss? >:-) > > >EDgar > > > > >On Oct 21, 2012, at 2:43 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>edgar..are you there listening: hiss hiss?..merle >> >>Edger >>Congradulation you have come to realise your true self. It is like fire. I >>have dropped a fire and you are the first one to catch because you are ripe >>and at that stage of burning. >>Enjoy now pure meditation >>Suresh >>suresh >>On Oct 20, 2012 5:11 PM, "Edgar Owen" <[email protected]> wrote: >> This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! ([email protected]) Add >> cleanup rule | More info >>> >>> >>>Suresh and Merle, >>> >>> >>>I'm hearing that hissing noise very strongly right now! I think this is >>>something new form of mind control being transmitted to our brains over the >>>internet. It wasn't here yesterday! >>>:-) >>> >>> >>>Edgar >>> >>> >>>On Oct 20, 2012, at 2:12 AM, SURESH JAGADEESAN wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Merely >>>>Thanks for your mail. >>>>I am Mr.Suresh a male, living in Chennai, India. A Tamilian, a hindu >>>>brahman by birth. But I like to be identified as free thinker. Before >>>>marriage i used to read lot of Osho, JK, Ramana, as well as bible and >>>>kuran. I too read many other hindu religious books. Only after marriage my >>>>reading was reduced. >>>>Now i read very briefly as half an hour day during night. >>>>Once i read Ramana he said that you know your self, only thing is you have >>>>forgotten your nature, so keep remembering your nature. So i made effort to >>>>remember what would be my nature when i was born, i went how much i can >>>>remember. Then suddenly i remembered this hiss sound. During my childhood >>>>days i used to live with my grandma and lie on the floor and used to listen >>>>to this sound and also outward sound but it was quiet and serene. Then i >>>>realised this is what my true nature is. From this sound only this false >>>>self was created. It is this source all life forms have come out and this >>>>is what buddha nature is. >>>>I think a truly enlightened master will understand what i say. >>>>Please think over >>>>Suresh >>>> >>>>On Oct 20, 2012 8:10 AM, "Merle Lester" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! ([email protected]) >>>> Add cleanup rule | More info >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bill!... i do not have high blood pressure!...merle >>>>> >>>>>Merle and Suresh,Ringing in your ears can be a sign of high blood >>>>>pressure. I don't know if that's the same as hissing or not..Bill!--- In >>>>>mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> >>>>>wrote:>> > > hi suresh..> welcome to this group..we are all kind to each >>>>>other so you are with good friends..> when you say bike..do you mean you >>>>>peddle to work?..2 hours each way...there is plenty of time for zen in >>>>>this activity..> as long as you do not have traffic to consider...what >>>>>type of work are you involved with?...and where do you live in the city?> >>>>>> i am sorry to hear about your 2 sons..you have a lot on your plate> > >>>>>in this group there are some very wise people who will give you plenty of >>>>>guidance in the zen experience..they are seasoned practitioners!> > i ask >>>>>is this hiss sound... are your ears okay... have you had them checked >>>>>medically?> > group..what does this mean the hiss????? ringing in the >>>>>ears etc..is a medical condition> > as joe says it is good if you could some how go to a retreat for even a couple of days..> or find a teacher> if this is not available for you as your time is so limited i am sure the group will assist you in any way possible, strengthen your practise and give you excellent advice> so i think it goes without saying feel free to ask..> as the old saying goes..> ask and you will receive knock and the door will open...> peace be with you..> merle..> p.s. are you a male or female..by your name i cannot tell> > Merly> Thanks for your mail.> First son is 10 year old and 2nd son is 5 year old. My 2nd son is still develop speech. 1st son has broken conversation and understanding is poor. He cannot easily talk to other.> I go office by bike. In truth most of the time my mind is occupied in thoughts and now a days i am practicing to utter god name siva.> But i am going through some spiritual experience which is similar to zen. I hear hiss sound continuously and when alone in room or toilet this sound is strongly heard which do not obscure outer sound. Iam more alert those time and no thoughts. This may be you can call buddha nature.> Thanks again> Suresh> On Oct 19, 2012 5:30 PM, "Merle Lester" <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:> > This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (merlewiitpom@...) 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But please note I cannot just sit and> >do meditation. I have two children and both are autistic ( a kind of> >mental retardation), and hence they wouldn’t allow me to sit for 5> >minutes. So I have to be on toes always.> >> >And I need to work for me and my family to have a better life, what I> >mean here is without working I cannot eat even for a single month. So> >when one is working from 9 to 6 and travelling> time is 2 hours and> >moment you reach home, you have kids which need to take for> >Occupational therapy, speech therapy etc., Even in weekends there are> >classes like Music class, Key board class, computer class and skating> >class. By the time I finish taking my children to all classes I am> >dead tired, but even in bed you cannot sleep so peacefully, because> >they have very poor sleep, even for smallest sound, my children will> >wake up and they wake me up. So every day one cannot have good sleep> >also.> >> >So in this kind of situation, how can I sit for meditation? You seems> >practicing Zen, have you ever reached Buddha nature?> >> >You said “'I am touching this rock, and there is an 'I' (self) and a> >'rock' and they are separate things.'”> >> >Can you tell me what is this self? Have you ever questioned yourself> >‘Who am I‘ .> >> >The duality is created by you and you want to dissolve it by> yourself?> >> >Can you tell me a technique for a person like me who is totally> >occupied in his life and no time to sit silently?> >> >Best wishes> >Suresh> >> >> >On 10/19/12, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:> >> This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! 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