No, you just never understood what I've been saying consistently.. Intellectual understanding is the koan you need to solve BEFORE you can directly experience realization. It is necessary to prepare yourself for a correct realization...
Intellectual understanding is NOT realization in itself... Edgar On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Bill! wrote: > Edgar, > > You say this all the time. The last time was saying something like 'you must > understand the difference between reality and illusion'. That's what prompted > my 'Daily Question' which you declined to answer. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > Funny, accusing Merle of supporting something I never said and don't > > believe.... > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:16 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > I believed you did not know this because of your MANY posts recently > > > supporting Edgar's continual assertions that UNDERSTANDING is necessary > > > for realizing Buddha Nature. > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  but of course BILL.... what makes you believe i did not know > > > > this?...merle > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > Because Buddha Nature is not something you understand, it's something > > > > you experience...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >  why not ?..merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > > > Yes. That's why I wrote it. > > > > > > > > > > Huxley's 'Attention! Attention! Here and Now Boys! Here and Now > > > > > Boys!' is the same thing as Joshu's 'The Oak Tree in the Garden' and > > > > > 'Mu'', Unmon's 'Dried Shit-Stick' Tozan's 'Three Pounds of Flax' and > > > > > my 'Just THIS!'. > > > > > > > > > > Understand? (...and you better not answer 'YES!!!!') > > > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  and is that not what the repeat as the mantra in the > > > > > > island novel?...merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > > > > > Or, if you prefer, "Attention! Attention! Here and Now Boy! Here > > > > > > and Now!" > > > > > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The latter, I think. I imagine it was fashioned in the form of a > > > > > > > flat blade, like a palette-knife, or putty knife, probably from a > > > > > > > broad thin piece of architectural bamboo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It must have been a common enough accessory in use at the Ch'an > > > > > > > monasteries, some of which housed hundreds of monks or nuns, and > > > > > > > the latrines must have been extensive. And so the Master made use > > > > > > > of the stick as an example, in his teaching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Others might have answered, "The Oak Tree in the court yard" (but > > > > > > > at some of the monasteries on high mountains, Oaks did not grow, > > > > > > > but mostly Pines did/do). Bamboo could be brought up from below, > > > > > > > for building, and for implements. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still others might have answered, "Just THIS!". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Master was very compassionate, bringing the student back into > > > > > > > the "here and now" with what he said and how he said it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huh??????? wiping what.... the toilet or the arse?.. > > > > > > > > so it's an arse wiping stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
