does a door-post lack anything? more than enough awakened persons have stated, "Awakening chooses you"; not the other way around. No conditions.
"beyond intellect into intuition and awareness"? have you been there? or are you just speculating? hongyeongsoo "zazen is good for nothing" On 10/24/12, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: > In Edgar's defence, try telling a door-post, or a one day old baby, or a > person in a coma - "Just This" - and see if they Awaken. So the intellect is > needed to both live and set the conditions for awakening, but toreally live > we have to go beyond the intellect into intuition and awareness. 2 plus 2 = > 4. But what does 4 equal? > > Mike > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012, 23:26 > Subject: Re: [Zen] original zen > > > > Group, & Edgar, > > I did my level best to draw Edgar out, but to Noah Veil. > > I inscribe my Gatha in sorrow, with regret and apology to all. > > To Edgar: > -- ----- > Stubbornness does not Compassion show; > Nor Self-Protectiveness quicken the Slow. > One-up-man-ship > Did never steal THIS show. > > Generosity and consideration > Are a far more wholesome ration. > But Clarity, Honesty, and help, > Come not from a whelp. > > To raise a point and then depart > Is the misplaced throwing of a dart. > To live to lie another day, > is the cellulose Philosophy of a bale of Hay. > > --J. Guo-Xiang Tennen M. > >> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >> >> REALITY, THE WORLD OF FORMS, as I just said! > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
