Edgar,

Of course I mean at a practice center, with a teacher and sangha.  I gather 
you've done that, say, for lengthy retreats.

My teacher did a 6-year solo retreat in a shack on a mountain in Taiwan, after 
his awakening.  He grew a species of wild potatoes outside the hut, and lived 
on their (cooked) leaves, and someone brought him a bag of rice once per month, 
leaving it at an arranged place about a kilometer from the hut (so, my teacher 
Sheng Yen never saw another person for six years).  The rice-bringer had to 
cross three rivers to get to the delivery stashing-place.  It was isolated.

Shakyamuni left the society of his family, and practiced.  We don't have to do 
that, but we can still remove ourselves from the larger society and practice 
with the sangha in the traditional way, of sesshin.  I assume you've done a 
share of this, or maybe a lot of it.

--Joe

> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Well I have for extended periods of time at least partly, but it's very 
> difficult for human beings who as a species are so wimpy compared to wild 
> animals...




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