guru in western society has taken on a very wretched feel.... you know that 
joe..merle
  
Merle,

Ha!, and you said my quoting "Alfie" was saccharine "hooplah".

(it's Philosophical; and I quoted the lyrics in the context of your asking 
about God, and the meaning of Life; the song POSES those questions, and gives 
an Answer).

But, "Tiptoe through the Tulips"?

No; I'll walk down Fourth Avenue and give quarters to the panhandlers, and 
listen to their story.

--Joe

PS  Guru is Sanskrit for "teacher".  There is, too, the connotation of "Light": 
isn't that what we all phototrope towards, Merle?  Is your wholesale dismissal 
and dis-ing of Gurus and their disciples just poetic justice?  Or?  There seem 
to be more vocal ingrate Deconstructionists here than you can shake a Kyosaku 
at.  I find it immature and sad, in a Zen forum.  And remember, Suresh here is 
investigating a guru; are you happy to have him read your patter?  Slip of the 
keyboard?  Or?

> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
>  no one is guru.... guru who? guru what?.. who is the guru's guru?


 

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