joe..you have been blessed with great teachers..may you walk in light beauty and truth now and forever more...merle
Merle, I *don't* know it. I freely admit this. There *ARE* some things that I am happily ignorant of, Merle. Guru, "wretched"?: I don't know who makes this stuff up, honestly. In Science-circles, even the joking use of "Guru" is honorific: Call somebody a "Computer-guru", and THAT'S somebody you WANT to have in your group. Say "Optics guru", and *I* turn around. Look for a Home-Brewing guru, and he's Gary, the fellow up the street who owns the store "Brew Your Own Brew", in Tucson, and teaches classes in the brewing of all-grain recipes. I learned from and have read only from actual gurus, like Ramana Maharshi, Swami Muktananda, Sri Chinmoy, and Yogananda. The term "Guru" has never had any negative connotation in the slightest in my mind. You see why I don't share your and Edgar's cynicism. I don't have a comic-book mentality. Actually, again, I don't know WHERE you get this stuff. Now, "Fakir", on the other hand, is a term that brings to mind snake-charmers, and the very name recalls certain individuals in this very same august Zen forum discussion Group. Just the thought of what you wrote makes me have to take a shower, Merle. I don't know where you're coming from. "Hooplah", I call it. Why be influenced by that? Meet a real Guru, somewhere, sometime. Don't swallow up all the popular trash out there. Nor any other trash. --Joe > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > guru in western society has taken on a very wretched feel.... you know that >joe..merle
