Edgar,

Why is it only you here who disparages and dishonours someone who is so 
obviously held in such high esteem by Joe and no doubt countless others? The 
bond between a student and a teacher can be more profound in some ways than 
that between family members. Here is a man who sat alone for six years to seek 
the truth and make it available for others. Just do the same yourself for one 
month to see what kind of strength and compassion of spirit is required to do 
such a thing and then come back and mock. You question his truth and sincerity 
based on an account of what he ate during that time. Really? Do we doubt the 
morality and teachings of Buddha because it was said he survived on one grain 
of rice a day while he was going thru his ascetic phase? Investigate by all 
means, but to deliberately insult to score points creates nothing but 
negativity. Surely someone who claims to be a teacher of awakening understands 
the role of skilful means?...

Mike



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 From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 18:00
Subject: Re: [Zen] A guru is not dead at any time
 

  
Mike,

Because I point out Joe's 'master' could simply not have lived on yam leaves 
and rice for 6 years like Joe says he claimed I'M the bad guy?

Is your loyalty to reality or delusion?

Edgar




On Nov 21, 2012, at 12:09 PM, mike brown wrote:

  
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>Edgar?,
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>Who are you? Where's the real Edgar and what have you done with him? It's a 
>pity because I think Joe would've liked the old Edgar.
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>Mike
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> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 16:32
>Subject: Re: [Zen] A guru is not dead at any time
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>Joe,
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>Getting mighty nasty!
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>I must have touched a sore spot.
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>You are the only one depending your position here in case you haven't 
>noticed...
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>Edgar
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>On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Joe wrote:
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>>Edgar,
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>>Full of Gulab Jamun.
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>>I take it back: your free-ride practice at temples was a waste, or a lark.
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>>Pity you don't know a touchstone from the Tablets of Moses.
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>>Since you take such exception to the Zen tradition, why are you here?  Just 
>>another fool comedian.  You're entitled to your own personal and proprietary 
>>misunderstandings, but when it comes to slander, you must be corrected and 
>>remedies must be sought.
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>>--Joe
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>>> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
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>>> The notion that realization can only be transmitted through some human 
>>> master is a delusion....
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