RAF,

Yes, I think we agree on this...

Edgar



On Nov 27, 2012, at 11:15 PM, R A Fonda wrote:

> On 11/27/2012 7:04 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:
> 
>> It's mostly mental suffering that Buddhism addresses in saying that 
>> suffering is due to attachments, desires, and ignorance. Mental suffering 
>> can thus largely be released and avoided by proper understanding or 
>> realization in the Buddhist sense. 
> Point well taken.
> 
>> But it is incorrect that life IS suffering. Life includes a very complex mix 
>> of experience including suffering, pain, joy, happiness and a lot of other 
>> experiences which are clearly NOT suffering. I'm certainly NOT suffering 
>> right now and I'm most certainly alive.
> Well, it is certainly true that life is not ONLY suffering. I merely contend 
> that it is an inescapable aspect of physical existence. So we seem to be in 
> complete agreement here:
> 
>> But physical pain is an intrinsic part of being a flesh based being. Even 
>> the most enlightened being is still subject to more or less physical pain. 
>> ...  from an EP perspective suffering responses are rooted in evolutionary 
>> adaptations which is why we naturally have them 
>> 
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> RAF
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