RAF,
Do you "know" something of our Zen path?
To me you come appear as a "pessimistic" academic Buddhist. That translation
was always in error.
--Joe
> R A Fonda <rafonda@...> wrote:
>
> On 11/29/2012 2:39 PM, Joe wrote:
> > I put no stock in prophecy.
>
> Nor do I ... until it comes true/is revealed to be scientifically valid,
> whereupon I take an interest in the Way that enabled that revelation.
>
> > Projecting from trends, *maybe*.
>
> As I said, extant scientific data is sufficient to predict a population
> crash.
>
> > Those Indians could know nothing about global warming, fresh-water
> > shortages, raging population growth, sea-level rise, massive and
> > escalating species extinctions, etc.
>
> That is the whole point: a prediction that does not rely on things they
> knew by conventional means, logic or trend projection etc..., but 'comes
> true' in the distant (our imminent) future attracts my attention to the
> Way that enabled it.
>
> Just sayin' ... This comes back to my view that I have no responsibility
> to persuade people of my view; no duty to 'save' them from the
> consequences of their collective actions, even if I believed that were
> possible, which I do not. As I wrote, I do not see the human future as
> 'open', but rather to be constrained; not fixed, I grant you (which is
> why I bother to speak/write at all) but highly constrained, hence
> predictable.
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