Merle,

You wanted to know what my connection was with the Heart Sutra and Diamond 
Sutra, and I told you about how these are prevalent and omnipresent in formal 
practice.  You did not know that beforehand, or you would not have assumed that 
I had never heard of them before.

Thus I could naturally see that you had never practiced formallyl in fact, you 
had told us this many times before.  That is all.

It's *YOU* who hold assumptions about many of us.  You think that every cute 
Zen story is one that we are all hearing at first-blush.  Shame!  It's a 
childish and innocent attitude you strike, and it is not fitting.

I don't say you're the lesser Human Being for this and for your lack of contact 
with formal practice and teaching, ...just as I hope I'm no lesser for having 
no formal Art Instruction under my belt.

But I monotonically -- some might think "monotonously" -- encourage you and all 
others who come to a group called ..."Zen Forum"... (!) ...  to find a formal 
Zen practice situation; *OR*, learn a bit about practice from books, and put 
that into practice; *AND*, learn from discussions made possible by the presence 
of this group, and the Zen-Assembly that we constitute, here.

Of course it's OK "just" to talk about things, though, and never to practice.  
But don't cast aspersions on those who do practice, and who have some 
experience in a live Sangha.

Anyway, old ground.  Let's not dig up this same 40 acres again, ok?
Spare the horses, and the point of the plow.  Onward.

--Joe

> Merle Lester  wrote:
>
>  joe..what assumptions you make about me..saying i do not practise..how would 
>you know?..

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