No way! I just choked on my oysters and Chardonnay! Maybe there's a special offer on Zen inc(a), too..
Seriously, $120 an hour?... --- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote: > > > > the payment to see the diamond lady is $120..for one hour... > > i am thinking the average person does not have that in their wallet... > > does she offer help for the needy?... > > mosman is an exclusive suburb of sydney...very exclusive... > > who's going to go there?... > > those with pockets full of loot and "problems"..manifested because they have > too much loot and too much time on their hands.. > > mainly i bet middle class women who's hubby brings in the pay cheque and they > have nothing better to do .. > > cynical yes!... > > Â i ask again the question why did not jesus charge for his teachings?... > > merle > > > Â > > Joe, > > I'm no purist, believe me. And I willingly give dana for receiving the > teaching of the Dharma and to help in the promulgation of it. I'm not > suggesting that every teacher is simply teaching in order to make a living, > but it's a slippery slope towards the corruption of the Dharma (not that the > True Dharma can be corrupted). And I know I'm in good company in being > concerned about this. > > Mike > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > > > And, Mike, let's not mix metaphors and Metamucil. > > > > Those teachers who are not supported by the Monastic infrastructure, who > > are independent, free, and house-holders, OF COURSE need support from > > students, or else from their own independent means. One or the other, or > > both. > > > > Even if they DON'T need this support, they charge something anyway, because > > they KNOW it is ***GOOD PSYCHOLOGY***. Get sumpthin' for nuthin', and > > that's just how you'll value it (you Cheapskates... whoever you are). > > > > I charge $45 US for my 6 weeks series in "Buddhist Yoga for Meditators". > > Yet, I am Rich. Even the students can see unabashedly that I drive a > > pretty high-class 30-year-old 12-speed bicycle, with 18,000 miles on it. > > > > I've never practiced anywhere and paid NOTHING to support the Sangha, or > > Center. Why would I? > > > > If you do -- not YOU!, Mike -- you are a fool. > > > > Who'll pay for the Sandals? > > > > Ask Edgar. > > > > --Joe > > > > --- In [email protected], "mike" wrote: > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > Don't be so harsh on yourself. I think you're right to be somewhat > > > skeptical about teachers who receive an income, or make a living, out of > > > the Dharma. Joe is also correct that so often we listen to our > > > discriminating mind and hence create points of view that are just not > > > true reflections of reality. But there has to be a balance. I don't know > > > Subhana, but if it's true she is a practicing doctor, then my feeling > > > would be she shouldn't be charging money for teaching the Dharma. Where, > > > for example, would she know that trip overseas was paid from - her > > > doctor's salary or from a talk on the Lotus Sutra? (I'm not necessarily > > > impugning Subhana as I know nothing of her circumstances. But I think my > > > concerns still stand). > > > > > > I also think it's wrong if a person makes a living teaching the Dharma, > > > but could be earning a living in other ways. Let's not forget that Buddha > > > forbade his monks from even * handling* money! In the Vipassana tradition > > > of S.N.Goenka (the one I follow), all retreats are free of charge, and > > > all teachers are volunteers. Simply put, no one should receive financial > > > compensation for teaching the Dharma, at least not beyond reimbursement > > > for travelling expenses etc. sometimes 'wage' can conveniently be > > > interpreted as 'Dana'. > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
