Edgar, I don't know. I'd say you've just been seriously arse-raped if you paid $120 dollars for an hour of buying water at the river.
Mike --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > $120/hr? And you don't even get any sex?! > :-) > > Edgar > > > > On Feb 14, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > the payment to see the diamond lady is $120..for one hour... > > > > i am thinking the average person does not have that in their wallet... > > > > does she offer help for the needy?... > > > > mosman is an exclusive suburb of sydney...very exclusive... > > > > who's going to go there?... > > > > those with pockets full of loot and "problems"..manifested because they > > have too much loot and too much time on their hands.. > > > > mainly i bet middle class women who's hubby brings in the pay cheque and > > they have nothing better to do .. > > > > cynical yes!... > > > > i ask again the question why did not jesus charge for his teachings?... > > > > merle > > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > I'm no purist, believe me. And I willingly give dana for receiving the > > teaching of the Dharma and to help in the promulgation of it. I'm not > > suggesting that every teacher is simply teaching in order to make a living, > > but it's a slippery slope towards the corruption of the Dharma (not that > > the True Dharma can be corrupted). And I know I'm in good company in being > > concerned about this. > > > > Mike > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > >> > >> And, Mike, let's not mix metaphors and Metamucil. > >> > >> Those teachers who are not supported by the Monastic infrastructure, who > >> are independent, free, and house-holders, OF COURSE need support from > >> students, or else from their own independent means. One or the other, or > >> both. > >> > >> Even if they DON'T need this support, they charge something anyway, > >> because they KNOW it is ***GOOD PSYCHOLOGY***. Get sumpthin' for nuthin', > >> and that's just how you'll value it (you Cheapskates... whoever you are). > >> > >> I charge $45 US for my 6 weeks series in "Buddhist Yoga for Meditators". > >> Yet, I am Rich. Even the students can see unabashedly that I drive a > >> pretty high-class 30-year-old 12-speed bicycle, with 18,000 miles on it. > >> > >> I've never practiced anywhere and paid NOTHING to support the Sangha, or > >> Center. Why would I? > >> > >> If you do -- not YOU!, Mike -- you are a fool. > >> > >> Who'll pay for the Sandals? > >> > >> Ask Edgar. > >> > >> --Joe > >> > >> --- In [email protected], "mike" wrote: > >>> > >>> Merle, > >>> > >>> Don't be so harsh on yourself. I think you're right to be somewhat > >>> skeptical about teachers who receive an income, or make a living, out of > >>> the Dharma. Joe is also correct that so often we listen to our > >>> discriminating mind and hence create points of view that are just not > >>> true reflections of reality. But there has to be a balance. I don't know > >>> Subhana, but if it's true she is a practicing doctor, then my feeling > >>> would be she shouldn't be charging money for teaching the Dharma. Where, > >>> for example, would she know that trip overseas was paid from - her > >>> doctor's salary or from a talk on the Lotus Sutra? (I'm not necessarily > >>> impugning Subhana as I know nothing of her circumstances. But I think my > >>> concerns still stand). > >>> > >>> I also think it's wrong if a person makes a living teaching the Dharma, > >>> but could be earning a living in other ways. Let's not forget that Buddha > >>> forbade his monks from even * handling* money! In the Vipassana tradition > >>> of S.N.Goenka (the one I follow), all retreats are free of charge, and > >>> all teachers are volunteers. Simply put, no one should receive financial > >>> compensation for teaching the Dharma, at least not beyond reimbursement > >>> for travelling expenses etc. sometimes 'wage' can conveniently be > >>> interpreted as 'Dana'. > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
