But Bill, aren't you interested in what others in the Zen community, including a number at the highest levels, have to say about this situation?
After all you and Joe especially are into the Zen orthodox tradition and these people are its representatives... Frankly I think you and Joe especially are just trying to dodge the issue because you guys have a strong attachment to zen orthodoxy you haven't been able to release or haven't realized the need to release and confronting this issue threatens that attachment... Edgar On Feb 19, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Bill! wrote: > Edgar, > > I just wanted to show you how I do read your posts thoroughly. I am > interested in what you have to say. I'm not that interested in what others > who are not participants on the Zen Forum have to say. Perhaps that's so > because I can't interact with them - ask for clarification or more > information. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > Yes, you got all those points correct! > > > > Congratulations! > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > The article is the article. So what? I want to know YOUR opinion on the > > > contents of the article, not just read the article. In your retort below > > > you did reveal a lot: > > > > > > You believe: > > > > > > - some newspapers are 'respected' and some are not > > > - some newspapers are 'major' and some are not > > > - the content of articles printed in newspapers that you consider both > > > 'respected' and 'major' are more legitimate than someone's opinion > > > - some on this forum don't want to hear anything bad about zen > > > - zen has something to do with censorship and truth > > > > > > Thanks for sharing...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen wrote: > > > > > > > > It's news by a respected major newspaper about a major Zen figure, NOT > > > > someone's opinions. > > > > > > > > But of course we wouldn't want anything not Zen politically correct on > > > > the group now would we? > > > > > > > > Censorship or truth? Which is true Zen? > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > > > > > I second that wholeheartedly! > > > > > > > > > > I participate in this forum to hear YOUR views, not just be directed > > > > > to SOMEONE ELSE's views (who are not even members of this forum) > > > > > unless that are cited to support something you have said. > > > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > (never yet looked at a link without commentary by the poster) > > > > > > > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar Owen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/world/asia/zen-buddhists-roiled-by-accusations-against-teacher.html?hp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
