In addition, Realist denotes something special, something elitist as well, does 
it not? 

You know, people use they hands in different ways.

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zendervish

--- In [email protected], "salik888" <novelidea8@...> wrote:
>
> Bill
> 
> The "subject line" refers to the book
> 
> Ehei Dogen, Mystical Realist, Hee-Jin Kim
> 
> Nevertheless, I would agree with you though, so how about that one! . . . 
> Mystical is a word in our time that denotes something special . . . usually 
> it has something to do with "spiritual but not religious." Or apologetics for 
> certain Religions. 
> 
> Like the word esoteric . . . 
> 
> Enlightenment . . . how about that booby trap word?
> 
> I am more from the school of "get your ass over there and sit down . . ." Or 
> -- "don't!"
> 
> Samey Samey . . . 
> 
> Anyway, I am not big on the word myself . . . it has worn out its usefulness, 
> if it had any to begin with.  
> 
> zendervish
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > Suresh,
> > 
> > There is no spiritual quality in zen.  Dogen was not a mystic as is stated 
> > in the subject line of this post. He was a realist.  Only that.
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Sir,
> > > 
> > > Wonderful saying. I have a problem. This daily life often takes me out
> > > of this spirituality. I often drained off by the thoughts of wanting
> > > and fearing. I can't speak spiritual in other forums such as Merchant
> > > Navy forums, which they dislike. Can anyone have a separate life one
> > > for professional and for personal? People have multiple faces, they
> > > don't speak truth or even they don't know that they are possessed by
> > > egoic thoughts. If you point out their egoic way of thiking, they get
> > > angry.
> > > 
> > > I am afraid I wanted to be constantly aware of my inner peace and
> > > remain in peace. But it doesn't seem to happen. My energy levels are
> > > going down. Can I be enlightened?
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Thanks and best regards
> > > J.Suresh
> > > New No.3, Old No.7,
> > > Chamiers road - 1st Lane,
> > > Alwarpet,
> > > Chennai - 600018
> > > Ph: 044 42030947
> > > Mobile: 91 9884071738
> > >
> >
>




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