Bill,

The very fact I'm still posting to this forum demonstrates I have a heart, have 
compassion. I take it as part of my Boddhisattva duties....
:-)

Edgar



On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Joe,
> 
> Yes, I saw that. And also I too thought that although it was clumsily-worded 
> his heart was in the right place. Or at least the form that we call his heart 
> was in the right place. Or at least was I say it was in right place because I 
> suspect any notion of Edgar actually having a heart is definitely illusory 
> which puts it right smack dab in the middle of the world-of-forms.
> 
> ...Bill! 
> 
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Bill!,
> > 
> > Somewhere in the thread of posts of late regarding Buddha Nature, Edgar 
> > mentioned that a hard part in our practice is bringing our awakening to the 
> > realm of forms, and that meditation leading to awakening may have been the 
> > "easy" part of the old two-step.
> > 
> > I didn't really think this was quite an apt way to put it, but I certainly 
> > understood from experience that ending a long period of intensive practice 
> > and returning to home life can open us to a challenge.
> > 
> > And I recall how, after sesshins end, for example, a lot of happiness, and 
> > laughing and tears, and, as people are leaving, people would sometimes say, 
> > "Well, the REAL sesshin begins TOMORROW!"
> > 
> > Everybody understands this.
> > 
> > As Mike was giving his advice to Edgar at the apparent end of that thread, 
> > I chimed in to support the part of Edgar's contributions that was indeed 
> > for me the most poignant and practical and important, as I see it as a 
> > practitioner.
> > 
> > I did not expect to carry on at a little length about things not too 
> > unrelated.
> > 
> > Like you, I suppose I write extemporaneously too, Bill!
> > 
> > "Twirling"? Is someone a Drum Majorette?
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > "Bill!" wrote:
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > > 
> > > Maybe I missed something, but is your comment below addressed to Mike 
> > > about Edgar's comment - and if so which one? Or should your comment below 
> > > have been addressed to Edgar about Mike's comment - which you included 
> > > below?
> > > 
> > > Twirling in Thailand...Bill!
> > > 
> > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mike,
> > > > 
> > > > I say Edgar is right, though, that coming back is a hard part. 
> > > > 
> > > > Especially coming back from a long practice somewhere, and making your 
> > > > own (interruptable) schedule, again. It takes balance (retaining it, 
> > > > and, yes, reGaining it), and grace. Grace toward others and toward 
> > > > oneself.
> > [snip]
> >
> 
> 

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