Joe,

Yes, I saw that.  And also I too thought that although it was clumsily-worded 
his heart was in the right place.  Or at least the form that we call his heart 
was in the right place.  Or at least was I say it was in right place because I 
suspect any notion of Edgar actually having a heart is definitely illusory 
which puts it right smack dab in the middle of the world-of-forms.

...Bill! 

--- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Bill!,
> 
> Somewhere in the thread of posts of late regarding Buddha Nature, Edgar 
> mentioned that a hard part in our practice is bringing our awakening to the 
> realm of forms, and that meditation leading to awakening may have been the 
> "easy" part of the old two-step.
> 
> I didn't really think this was quite an apt way to put it, but I certainly 
> understood from experience that ending a long period of intensive practice 
> and returning to home life can open us to a challenge.
> 
> And I recall how, after sesshins end, for example, a lot of happiness, and 
> laughing and tears, and, as people are leaving, people would sometimes say, 
> "Well, the REAL sesshin begins TOMORROW!"
> 
> Everybody understands this.
> 
> As Mike was giving his advice to Edgar at the apparent end of that thread, I 
> chimed in to support the part of Edgar's contributions that was indeed for me 
> the most poignant and practical and important, as I see it as a practitioner.
> 
> I did not expect to carry on at a little length about things not too 
> unrelated.
> 
> Like you, I suppose I write extemporaneously too, Bill!
> 
> "Twirling"?  Is someone a Drum Majorette?
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> > 
> > Maybe I missed something, but is your comment below addressed to Mike about 
> > Edgar's comment - and if so which one?  Or should your comment below have 
> > been addressed to Edgar about Mike's comment - which you included below?
> > 
> > Twirling in Thailand...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > > 
> > > I say Edgar is right, though, that coming back is a hard part.  
> > > 
> > > Especially coming back from a long practice somewhere, and making your 
> > > own (interruptable) schedule, again.  It takes balance (retaining it, 
> > > and, yes, reGaining it), and grace.  Grace toward others and toward 
> > > oneself.
> [snip]
>




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