Edgar Thats talking zen . . . posting zen . . . then there is "your wrong" zen and you "dont understand" zen and "there is" no zen.
Anyway, Bill is right to bring zen back to zazen time and time again . . . although, as I have experienced different zen teachers, I realize there is flexibility to teaching zen, and different experiences of one and the same thing -- just this . . . the eternal present, but even then we miss it. /\ zendervish --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > 4 hours a week??? That's ALL the zazen you do?!!!! > > Gosh from the way you talk about sitting being the essence of Zen I expected > you did it every waking moment you could.... > > I guess you are more normal than I had feared! > :-) > > EDgar > > > > On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:29 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > Mike and Joe, ...and, well, okay...Edgar too, > > > > I agree with this. I sit (zazen - shikantaza) about 4 times a week in the > > morning for two twenty-minute sessions. > > > > When my schedule is interrupted, especially for a week or so, it doesn't > > take too long before I can notice the difference. But as Mike said it is > > easily and quickly restored. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@ wrote: > > > > > > Joe, > > > > I'm completely on board with you. Even on the micro-level (say after a few > > rounds of sitting zazen) you can feel the space between thoughts shrink if > > you don't keep up the intensity. But once thru the gateless gate there's a > > kind of 'muscle memory' that makes coming back to the mat easier each time. > > I think it was to Edgar that I previously pointed that Buddha maintained > > daily meditation until the day he died. > > > > Mike > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
