Bill In Gurdjieff tradition 'awareness' as you read, in particular All and Everything, the Gurdjieff's masterwork, is 'the condition' in which you read texts. In the Work, they have exercises, probably handed down from Buddhists in China and Tibet, for approaching a text in a holistic way.
/\ zendervish --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > Edgar, > > I think what he means when he says "...read with a mind that has cut off all > thinking" is to read without preconceptions, without making judgments and > without coming to conclusions (forming attachments to what you've read). > > But, this is kind of orthodox - so BEWARE! > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > A new low in total New Age comic book Zen crap! > > > > It's impossible to read with a mind that has cut off all thinking. And most > > emphatically NO books are the truth much less ALL books... > > > > I do agree that the barking of a dog or the crowing of the rooster are > > better Zen teachings than the books of the Zen masters though... > > > > Maybe it's a mistranslation problem???? > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > "If you are thinking, you can't understand Zen. Anything that can be > > > written in a book, anything that can be said all this is thinking ... > > > but if you read with a mind that has cut off all thinking, then Zen > > > books, sutras and Bibles are all the truth. So is the barking of a dog or > > > the crowing of a rooster. All things are teaching you at every moment, > > > and these sounds are even better teaching than Zen books. > > > > > > SEUNG SAHN - Seung Sahn Haeng Won Dae Soen-sa, born Dok-In Lee, was a > > > Korean Jogye Seon master and founder of the international Kwan Um School > > > of Zenthe largest Zen institution present in the Western world. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
