mike ... of course..my spirit!..merle
  

Merle, 

Where do you find a 'you' in flesh and bone? Do you have an essence, an 
enduring 'you' that can be pointed to?

Mike

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> realistically speaking you have to be of flesh and blood and hence real and 
> is that not rational ?...merle
>   
> 
> Bill!,
> 
> Aren't experiences also illusory in the sense that an experience requires 
> someone to have the experience?
> 
> Mike 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> > 
> > Right, sort of.
> > 
> > To be a 'rationalist' is to be someone who depends on rationality which is 
> > clearly illusory.
> > 
> > As someone who practices zen which is based entirely on experience I would 
> > hope I would be an 'experientialist' - or a 'realist'.
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill!,
> > > 
> > > I'd say the concept may be rational, although there is not an empirical 
> > > demonstration or proof of existence of such a being.
> > > 
> > > We know too that various Doctors of the Church did their darnedest along 
> > > rational lines, chief among them Augustine.
> > > 
> > > --Joe
> > > 
> > > > "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't see anything rational about the concept of God at all...Bill!
> > >
> >
>


 

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