Merle,

All is as it appears; if by 'appears' you mean 'experience'.  That is Buddha 
Nature.

All is not what it appears; if by 'appears' you mean perceive, think or know.  
That is illusion.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  
>  yes bill such an experience person as yourself ..not all is as it 
> appears...experience is one thing knowing is another...don't try to attach 
> more importance to one over the other...merle
>   
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Yes, sounds better :)
> 
> Siska
> ________________________________
> 
> From:  "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> 
> Sender:  [email protected] 
> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 01:00:50 -0000
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo:  [email protected] 
> Subject: Re: [Zen] hand up!
>   
> Siska,
> 
> Good point!  That's why I very seldom use the word 'know' when referencing 
> Buddha Nature.  You don't 'know' Buddha Nature, you EXPERIENCE it.  I also 
> sometimes use the words 'realize' and 'manifest'.  But just plain on 
> 'experience' is I think the best.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], siska_cen@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joe,
> > 
> > I'm not comfortable with the term "know", as perhaps it implies 
> > identification, judgement, reference to memory, or else how do you "know" 
> > something?
> > 
> > But I'm sure you (and Mike) did not mean "know" in this sense.
> > 
> > Siska
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Joe" <desert_woodworker@>
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:57:34 
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] hand up!
> > 
> > Siska,
> > 
> > Howdy.
> > 
> > You'll know the temperature of the water yourself when you drink it.
> > 
> > (so goes the wise old observation, you know).
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > siska <siska_cen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is this a koan or something?Â
> > > 
> > > Who can tell anyone is awakened or not?
> > > 
> > > Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > question: who is the awakened ONE in this group? ..merle
> >
>




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