Siska,

Good point!  That's why I very seldom use the word 'know' when referencing 
Buddha Nature.  You don't 'know' Buddha Nature, you EXPERIENCE it.  I also 
sometimes use the words 'realize' and 'manifest'.  But just plain on 
'experience' is I think the best.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], siska_cen@... wrote:
>
> Hi Joe,
> 
> I'm not comfortable with the term "know", as perhaps it implies 
> identification, judgement, reference to memory, or else how do you "know" 
> something?
> 
> But I'm sure you (and Mike) did not mean "know" in this sense.
> 
> Siska
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:57:34 
> To: <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Zen] hand up!
> 
> Siska,
> 
> Howdy.
> 
> You'll know the temperature of the water yourself when you drink it.
> 
> (so goes the wise old observation, you know).
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > siska <siska_cen@> wrote:
> >
> > Is this a koan or something?Â
> > 
> > Who can tell anyone is awakened or not?
> > 
> > Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> question: who is the awakened ONE in this group? ..merle
>




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