Bill,

Right. In these politically correct days the striker could well be arrested for 
assault if the sitter didn't consent...

Edgar



On Mar 29, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Bill! wrote:

> Merle,
> 
> Also in the two sanghas in which I participated the kyōsaku 
> (encouragement stick) was only used if the sitter wanted it. The jikijitsu 
> (the one who wielded the stick) would stop in front of you while you were 
> doing zazen and softly lay the stick on your shoulder. If you then bowed 
> he/she would strike you with the stick on each shoulder. If you didn't bow he 
> would just move on.
> 
> I'm sure historically the strikes weren't so voluntary though.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
> >
> > Merle,
> > 
> > Tough, yes. As I am. But that is not "insult": that is Compassion. 
> > 
> > Not done to harm or embarrass, but to encourage and "cure". There are NO 
> > exceptions to this, not in classical history of our way, nor now.
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > (note, too: Stick is not for punishment; it is to physically stimulate 
> > accu-pressure points on shoulder or back. My, what do they teach you where 
> > you study/practice? And one "receives" the stick only by asking for it by a 
> > special hand-signal. No worries. Compassion rules, not idiot 
> > Machismo/Feminismo).
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > hey...joe.. i thought they use to use a stick... i heard what edgar 
> > > heard..they were tough..merle
> >
> 
> 

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