yes yes yes...REALISATION IS THE KEY!..MERLE
  
Bill,

You believe that illusion, by your definition the world of forms that follows 
logical rules, arises or exists only in the mind.

This is incorrect because it assumes a dualism of mind versus an external 
world. This dualism DOES NOT EXIST.

Thus the world of forms CANNOT be said to exist only in the mind since the mind 
itself is PART of that world of forms, just another construct in the world of 
forms.

The true picture is that the world of forms exists in the one UNITY antecedent 
to the dualism of mind and not mind. Thus it MUST BE an intrinsic part of 
reality.

The world of forms are ripples in the formless sea of Buddha Nature, thus they 
are PART of Buddha Nature, they manifest Buddha Nature.

Zen is seeing the Buddha Nature IN the world of forms. It is not somehow making 
the world of forms disappear as you erroneously imagine.

It is true that in meditation consciousness temporarily can turn attention away 
from the forms. That is what you do in Zazen. But that is merely a state of 
mind that helps one recognize the Buddha Nature beyond the forms. The world of 
forms is always there ready to return as soon as you get up from sitting....

The trick is to bring that realization into daily life IN the world of forms 
where one continues to realize the Buddha Nature one realized in zazen IN the 
forms of the world in daily life....

That is true Zen mind 24/7. This is the teaching of all the great teachers......

Edgar

 

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