Merle, So...how do you think you can experience Buddha Nature? By reading about it? By memorizing lists?
I don't want you to believe me. I want you to experience Buddha Nature for yourself. And to do that you'll have to sit (zazen)...or at least that's the best way I know for you to do that. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > Â joe... i actually do not object..there are the 10 commandments in the bible > for instance... so be it buddhism... > > bullshit you can experience the buddha nature just by sitting.. > > i don't believe you bill!... > > merle > > > Â > Joe, > > I object. > > Any characterizations like The Eightfold Path, the Five (or Eight or Ten) > Precepts, the Ten Commandments, the Four Bodhisattva Vows, Three French Hens, > Two Turtle Doves or a single Partridge in a Pear tree are just gobbledygook > to me. > > Who took a Path and divided it up into eight parts? WTF? > > Just sit (zazen) and experience Buddha Nature. Then you won't need all these > lists someone else made up. You'll know for yourself. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > Well, you've given me something to think about, there. Thanks. > > > > Because, in fact, my sometime-claim here has been that the Ten Grave > > Precepts are the behavior of a Buddha, an awakened person. Not the Noble > > Eightfold Path. But, err-r, let me THINK about that. > > > > I'd say it is probably a description of the behavior of a Buddha, also -- > > and I have never thought in this way before, so THANKS! -- AND, as you say > > here, Mike, it is a prescription for the undoing of suffering caused by > > attachment. In this way, I feel that the "NEP" is more prescriptive and > > normative than the Precepts are, and that they are and were meant to be. I > > still feel that the Precepts are more descriptive, even though they may at > > first reading(s) look like a list of "Thou Shalt not" injunctions. > > > > But the Noble Eightfold Path as a description of the behavior of a > > Buddha... . That's GOOD. Well, I'm not sure why not! Does anybody object? > > > > I'll sleep on it, too, and see how it looks in the morning light. > > > > --Joe > > > > > uerusuboyo@ wrote: > > > > > > Although Joe is correct that the NEP describes the action of a Buddha, it > > > is also useful as a guide to ethical and wise living. > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
