Joe,

Reality always depends on an observer perspective on it. Without an observer 
there is no way to verify that reality even exists.... However everything that 
exists can be considered a generic observer. Thus reality consists of all 
observer perspectives on all observers including itself....

Edgar



On Apr 23, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Joe wrote:

> I was thinking of being at sea. Something I read today reminded me of this.
> 
> When you're at sea, far from any land, you can look around from the deck or 
> crow's nest and see the ocean. Look in any direction. Keep turning. Stand 
> still and take a wide-angle view, too.
> 
> What do you see? Ocean; sky. What about the ocean? It looks... round.
> 
> Is "round" an experience?
> 
> You certainly get -- have -- a SENSE of round. And there's very little else 
> going on to distract you.
> 
> So, maybe the experience is of "round".
> 
> Is this an illusion? Is it a delusion? Is it an experience?
> 
> Now, go ahead and take a commercial flight into space, or sub-space, in a few 
> years. Out the porthole, you can have a look at an ocean. You can see a shape 
> to it. Is this seeing an experience? An illusion, a delusion? Doe the ocean 
> look round? No; the ocean does not look round.
> 
> Will the "real" Ocean please stand up?
> 
> --Joe
> 
> 

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