Late posts, I know.  I was wondering if you jumped off of the boat into the 
ocean, would it still look round? Not very zenish but it seems that the closer 
you look the more you see. From a distance everything looks well organised, 
knife edge clean and well defined but up close it's chaos. Waves, wavelets, 
drops of water, molecules, atoms, atomic particles, all screaming about in 
insane patterns. Just an observation of Joe,s pacific ocean view.




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From: Joe <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, April 23, 2013 1:03:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] direct experience, and models

  
Edgar,

Yes, I think that's right.

And your final sentence puts me in mind of the Jewel Net Of Indra.

Let's watch as others weigh-in, or weigh anchor, or ..."way-out" (haven't heard 
beatnik-talk in 50 yrs).

Thanks, and all best.

--Joe

> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Joe,
> 
> Reality always depends on an observer perspective on it. Without an observer 
>there is no way to verify that reality even exists.... However everything that 
>exists can be considered a generic observer. Thus reality consists of all 
>observer perspectives on all observers including itself....
> 
>
> Joe wrote:
> 
> > I was thinking of being at sea. Something I read today reminded me of this.
[snip]


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