Charles,

I agree there is no designer... All natural phenomena have a design but that 
doesn't require a designer... If someone wants a God the only logical choice is 
the universe itself because then at least there is no doubt that God exists. 
It's then up to science (and Edgar) to discover God's characteristics.....
:-)

Edgar



On May 4, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Charles Gee wrote:

> I seem to think that Edgar wrote this:
> 
> This is because life cannot live without the death of other beings so 
> there is by necessity vast and interminable suffering built into the 
> design of the natural world.
> 
> With his love of reason could he please elucidate where he got this idea 
> of "design of the natural world." As an out and out atheist this hints 
> of a designer and perhaps Edgar has some proof of same, that us mere 
> Homo sapiens would appreciate. I spent 40 years looking for the Designer 
> I was forced to conclude it was another scam that is hallowed by self 
> interest and a long history of deceit.
> 
> Charles
> 

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