Hi Mike,

I take it then you've had a lot of practice?
:-)

Edgar



On May 23, 2013, at 11:55 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> No worries. I'm sure I've been challenged by bigger haemorrhoids than what 
> you've got!
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> 
> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; 
> To: <[email protected]>; 
> Subject: Re: [Zen] check your mirror 
> Sent: Thu, May 23, 2013 3:44:41 PM 
> 
>  
> Mike,
> 
> 
> LOL! Bend over and you'll find out how wrong you are!
> :-)
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On May 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Merle,
>> 
>> In Edgar's case there's not much to imagine ; )
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>> 
>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] check your mirror 
>> Sent: Thu, May 23, 2013 12:54:49 PM 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  what is it too summer time hot?...
>>  i could go further but i'll leave this to the imagination
>>  merle
>> 
>>  
>> Merle,
>> 
>> But I'm not wearing underpants!
>> :-)
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  i wondered too if he was or had pedophile tendencies... 
>>> he must have been "the man who loved all children"..
>>> there is no crime in that..as jesus said: "become liken as a 
>>> child"...something along that vein... 
>>> edgar you underpants are showing
>>>  check in your mirror
>>> merle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Edgar,
>>> 
>>> You can't preach "Right Thoughts" and then completely stomp over 'Right 
>>> Speech'...
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>>> 
>>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; 
>>> To: <[email protected]>; 
>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] The False I and the Real I - Eckhart Tolle 
>>> Sent: Wed, May 22, 2013 11:29:34 AM 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Bill,
>>> 
>>> Mr. Rogers was one of the most smarmy, saccharine, moronic, comic book 
>>> Christian likely pedophiles to ever defile US TV screens...
>>> 
>>> Edgar
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2013, at 4:47 AM, Bill! wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Merle,
>>>> 
>>>> Mister Roger's Neighborhood was a children's program that was very popular 
>>>> in the USA for a long, long time.  He is very kind and gentle teaching 
>>>> kids about all kinds of things.  Here's an episode where he talks about 
>>>> friends.  It's about 30-minutes long but you only have to watch about the 
>>>> first 3 or 4 minutes to get the idea of what he was like.
>>>> 
>>>> Mister Rogers 
>>>> 
>>>> ...Bill!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Â an all round american "let me do it right for you"!... merle
>>>> > Â  
>>>> > Merle,
>>>> > 
>>>> > Fred Rogers
>>>> > www.imdb.com
>>>> > Fred McFeely Rogers was an American educator, Presbyterian minister, 
>>>> > songwriter, author, and television host. Rogers was most famous for 
>>>> > creating and hosting Mister Rogers' Neighborhood, which featured his 
>>>> > gentle, soft-spoken personality and directness to his audiences.
>>>> > en.wikipedia.org
>>>> > Lived:Â Mar 20, 1928 - Feb 27, 2003 (age 74)
>>>> > Height:Â 6' (1.83 m)
>>>> > Spouse: Sara Byrd (1952 - 2003)
>>>> > 
>>>> > ...Bill!
>>>> > 
>>>> > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > >  bill..i do not know who mr. rogers is...enlighten me ,,merle
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > >   
>>>> > > Merle,
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Did Eckhart Tolle's demeanor remind you of Mr. Rogers as it did me?
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > ...Bill!
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester merlewiitpom@ wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > >  thank you bill.... a good start for the day... i watched 
>>>> > > > the video and found it very beneficial... merle
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > >   
>>>> > > > Below is a link to a 15-minute video by Eckhart Tolle entitled The 
>>>> > > > False I and the Real I.  I've read a few things from Tolle 
>>>> > > > but have never seen a video by him before.  I would describe 
>>>> > > > him as the the Mr. Rogers of New-Age Spiritualism.  
>>>> > > > If I remember correctly Bonnie, one of our new member, speaks highly 
>>>> > > > of Tolle.
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > It was interesting to me because he stated the ego is only the ego 
>>>> > > > if you're unaware of it, and as soon as you become aware of it it's 
>>>> > > > not the ego anymore. That corresponds somewhat to zen in that the 
>>>> > > > self is only problematic when you think it's real and are not aware 
>>>> > > > that it is an illusion. He also goes on to say that just recognizing 
>>>> > > > the ego doesn't solve all your problems. He says that there is a 
>>>> > > > kind of momentum built up that you just can't stop immediately. 
>>>> > > >  I think what he calls 'momentum' could be the same as what 
>>>> > > > Buddhism and zen (as I understand it) calls 'attachment'.
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > Anyway all this is similar to the experiencing Buddha Nature and 
>>>> > > > realizing the self is an illusion. That experience doesn't mean you 
>>>> > > > do not have any more work left to do to continue to weaken and 
>>>> > > > finally dissolve the attachment you have to this illusory self - 
>>>> > > > even after you recognize that it is illusory.
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > Also, you might also see how the same or very similar teachings of 
>>>> > > > zen are presented in a more modern dialog.
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > If you'd like to see this video, and I recommend it, you can find it 
>>>> > > > on YouTube at: The False I and the Real I .
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > Enjoy!  ...Bill!
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> 
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