Merle,

LOL! The Bushmen and aborigines you claim you admire so much ROUTINELY hook up 
as teens. The aborigines especially are well known for high rates of adult male 
- teen girl sex.

You can't have it both ways Merle.

Edgar



On May 26, 2013, at 4:16 AM, Merle Lester wrote:

> 
> 
>  mike...feminism..how about humanism?
> ...yes my options that i thought of at 18: was a nun...how right you are..
> that or a lady of the red light district..
> sorry if i am being a bit over the top..didn't mean to...
>  ended up a falling in love at 21... and we are still both on the same page 
> so to speak 46 years later...
> so i don't understand these relationship things..as well as you might ... ..
>  am curious how these days the lassies and lads shop around wait till there 
> early 30's and suddenly then they found mr. right or miss right...and breed...
> interesting behaviour..
>  was regarded as a weirdo  having the first baby at 29... and as for living 
> in sin which i totally approve of..is now..every tom and  helen's way of 
> doing things
>  things...
> interesting,,mmmm...
> 
> being at the cutting edge of relationship ideas in 1966... 
> and you tell me i"m not a feminist?... 
>  am above all a humanist first and for most ,,for gender equality men and 
> women..even the bushmen of the kalahari desert had that right...and that was 
> umpteen years past...
> 
> don't bullshit mike..we all know the  old withered chap with plenty of loot, 
> dyed hair to the max... using viagra...
> living out his youth fantasy with the blonde dolly handbag who loves him for 
> his loot..
> 
> if ya don't mike what bush have you been living under?..
> 
> merle
>  
> 
> Merle,
> 
> Don't know where I last met someone so judgemental and opinionated! I'm 48 
> and mentioning 3 women equates to a "track record"?? What - are you a nun, or 
> something? Because my current partner (who is 34) and doesn't want to "breed" 
> - she's a "submissive handbag dolly bird"?!! Who'd you learn your feminism 
> from - Benny Hill?
> 
> Mike
> 
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> 
> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
> Subject: [Zen] sweet young lassie 
> Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 5:21:43 AM 
> 
>  
> 
>   your track record if i might be so bold to say...
> 
> correct me if i am wrong and your joy that lady 3 does not wish to breed... 
> 
> is it lady 3?....
> 
> and you seem to love and agree with edgar's posts on the sweet young lassie 
> ... merle
> 
> 
>  
> Merle,
> 
> How the hell did you come to that conclusion???
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> 
> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate 
> Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 3:07:13 AM 
> 
>  
> 
>  you would mike..cause you too hanker for the young submissive handbag dolly 
> bird!!!!!! merle
>  
> Edgar,
> 
> Haha! Even when you write things I agree with, you make it impossible for me 
> to agree with you! 
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> 
> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; 
> To: <[email protected]>; 
> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate 
> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 1:53:16 PM 
> 
>  
> Mike,
> 
> Exactly. Romeo was in his 20's or more and Juliet was 14. Pocahontas was 12 
> or 13 when she took up with John Smith who was what? Late 20's or 30's? The 
> horrible ageism that destroys so many lives now days is a modern anomaly 
> dating from when women got the vote and used it to criminalize adult male sex 
> with young teenage girls they knew were more attractive on average to their 
> men.
> 
> It's all about female jealousy trying to eliminate competition from younger 
> more attractive women. It is NOT about protective young teens if it requires 
> consent.
> 
> It was and has been standard practice for teen girls to fall in love and 
> marry considerably older men throughout history. It's entirely natural 
> because older men are more successful and better able to care for a family, 
> and by marrying younger women men are able to ensure more and more healthy 
> children on average.
> 
> It's entirely natural, and it is best for society as a whole because it 
> encourages more stable and healthy families, no matter what old jealous 
> biddies like Merle say...
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On May 25, 2013, at 8:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
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>> Merle,
>> 
>> I've 3 kids including a daughter and my youngest son is 15. The problem I 
>> see following your argument is that you're trying to put a 60+ year head on 
>> a teenager's body. We've all done stupid things when we were kids that we 
>> regret and wouldn't dream of doing now as adults. But there's only a 
>> potential 2 year age gap between these kids. I think Bill is right. If this 
>> was about 2 heterosexual kids there'd be no fuss. Imagine how many schools 
>> have such relationships? Also, the age thing is totally arbitrary. Imagine 
>> going to Papua New Guinea and complaining about the same age difference 
>> between two village members..
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>> 
>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate 
>> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 12:41:45 PM 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  mike..well come to australia sydney..moderate muslims do speak up!..
>> i care little for whether kate is a criminal or not,,
>> she knows the law..and she was so desperate with desire she could not 
>> wait... 
>> it's not the buddhist way...
>> in her own mind  how does she feel...
>> jesus at 15...for christ sake i keep harping on about childhood and 
>> innocence.. 
>> did you experience the beauty of childhood and innocence..? 
>> do you have any kids?..do you understand what i am saying?...
>> we have a lifetime to be adults in an adult world..
>> childhood and innocence is a fleeting moment... 
>> it is very precious... 
>> let's not rush ourselves head first all guns firing into adulthood and 
>> responsibilities... 
>> let's play a little let's have fun..innocent and free...
>> that is why there are the laws to protect the innocent..
>> do you get it?...
>> merle 
>> 
>>  
>> Merle,
>> 
>> An act is illegal if there is a law prohibiting it. If you do that act you 
>> have committed a crime. If you're convicted of that crime by a court (which 
>> is what Tim is trying to prevent) then you are a 'criminal'. If you approve 
>> of that law (and you most certainly appear to), then you will by default be 
>> making the 18 year old a criminal.
>> 
>> You could well be right about my judging of Islam, but I'm yet to be 
>> convinced by your argument, or anyone elses here, that I'm wrong. The 
>> evidence supporting my argument can be seen everyday all over the world. 
>> I've yet to see moderate Muslims protesting on the street that their 
>> religion is being hijacked by evil mean wrongfully killing in the name of 
>> their God.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>> 
>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate 
>> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 12:19:37 PM 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  mike..
>> 
>> did i say they were criminals?..who's judging now?..
>> 
>>  don't you think this kinda thing happens on this side of the planet?...
>> sure they may be friends..so how come everybody knows?... eh..keep it 
>> quiet..who squealed?... 
>> it is illegal in australia...the 15 year old is too young...what happened to 
>> innocence?... 
>> so kate at 18 is so desperate she can't wait? huh? 
>>  don't give the shit about it happens regardless and why not?...
>>  
>> a rational mind..come on edgar..this is where we use common sense and 
>> rational thinking do not let our instincts run away with us...
>> 
>>  mike this applies to dames and blokes in the back of the car and then get 
>> pregnant..mindlessness..rush rush in and just do it..never thinking what 
>> lies ahead...
>> just plain stupid... all for what a bit of hopeless stumbling and fumbling 
>> in the dark ...
>> 
>>  in america and ireland..no abortion in many places and the catholic men 
>> preaching no pill no pill...plain stupid..
>>  if that's been judgemental be it so...
>> 
>>  don't tell me you don't judge mike...
>> your not santa claus with your sack of toys from greenland...
>> your human like the rest of us on this forum... 
>> prone to judge..
>> 
>> prone to think ya right..
>> 
>>  prone to criticise when what's been said doesn't suit your doctrines and 
>> your self made mantras...
>> 
>> you made that bright and clear in your observations of islam...
>> take a step back..
>> might those folk you so put into the basket as terrorists may they not be 
>> better called fundamentalists..
>>  they come in many shades and colours and creeds... and include zen 
>> buddhists!
>> one size cap doeth not fit all... 
>> 
>> now my turn to ring the gong...
>> 
>> amen...
>> 
>> merle
>>  
>> Merle,
>> 
>> Why be so quick to judge when we don't know the facts. They sound like 
>> they're school friends and might have had some kind of relationship for 
>> sometime. Why should someone on the other side of the planet (that's you) 
>> feel like they have the right to judge either of them as criminal? I thought 
>> you'd be against that kind of judgmentalism.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>> 
>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate 
>> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 9:08:06 AM 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  it's illegal here hetro or homo... and for god sake..as i keep saying so 
>> desperate was kate?..merle
>>  
>> Merle,
>> 
>> It's illegal in the USA too. That's why she's being charged with felonies - 
>> probably statutory rape, corruption of a minor or child abuse.
>> 
>> Tim and the people objecting to this say this would not be being prosecuted 
>> if it were a heterosexual relationship and is only being pursued because of 
>> the homosexual aspect.
>> 
>> ...Bill!
>> 
>> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Â she's 18 and the other is 15...illegal in australia!.... excuse me could 
>> > she not wait till the kiddy turned 16...so desperate!..merle
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Â  
>> > Â Do people here know about the Free Kate Campaign? If not see 
>> > www.freekate.net 
>> > Kaitlyn Hunt, 18,who made international headlines after being charged with 
>> > felonies for her same-sex relationship with a 15-year-old peer, has 
>> > refused a plea deal offered by the state attorney's office, according to 
>> > CBS affiliate WPEC. Under the state attorney's deal, Hunt would have been 
>> > labeled a sex offender and placed on two years' house arrest. 
>> > 
>> > Go to http://www.change.org/freekate to sign the petition. 280,500+ signed 
>> > by 5/25. FB page has 49,600 members. It goes on in every school and only 
>> > gets 
>> > prosecuted when the parents hate the older one. The law was meant for 
>> > predators and not lovers. The punishment is a lifetime sentence. Thanks.
>> >
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