Joe and Merle, Yes, it's hard to tell you girls apart sometimes! :-)
Edgar On May 28, 2013, at 2:39 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > mike..why are you signing my name???????? merle > > > edgar... I did look it up! .. bush girls in africa definitely didn't have > handbags! > tell me where the gucchi shops are.. > ..do you have a daughter? did she buy a handbag from Africa?? > would a real zen practitioner think that a zebra skin handbag is enlightened > behaviour?? .. I don't think so! merle > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; > To: <[email protected]>; > Subject: Re: [Zen] humanism > Sent: Tue, May 28, 2013 2:31:35 AM > > > Merle, > > Look it up BEFORE you stick your foot in your mouth! Older established men > marrying younger teen girls is the norm in all indigenous cultures and was > throughout most of history until female suffrage in all cultures..... It is > the EP norm of human behavior whether you like it or not.... > > Edgar > > > On May 27, 2013, at 9:51 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >> >> edgar... That's not true at all... what nonsense.. Bushmen don't have >> younger submissive, dolly bird handbag girlfriends because there are no >> handbags in the jungle... get a grip... not having a grip is not zen.. you >> tell him Bill!... merle >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >> >> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; >> To: <[email protected]>; >> Subject: Re: [Zen] humanism >> Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 11:45:31 AM >> >> >> Merle, >> >> LOL! The Bushmen and aborigines you claim you admire so much ROUTINELY hook >> up as teens. The aborigines especially are well known for high rates of >> adult male - teen girl sex. >> >> You can't have it both ways Merle. >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On May 26, 2013, at 4:16 AM, Merle Lester wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> mike...feminism..how about humanism? >>> ...yes my options that i thought of at 18: was a nun...how right you are.. >>> that or a lady of the red light district.. >>> sorry if i am being a bit over the top..didn't mean to... >>> ended up a falling in love at 21... and we are still both on the same page >>> so to speak 46 years later... >>> so i don't understand these relationship things..as well as you might ... .. >>> am curious how these days the lassies and lads shop around wait till there >>> early 30's and suddenly then they found mr. right or miss right...and >>> breed... >>> interesting behaviour.. >>> was regarded as a weirdo having the first baby at 29... and as for living >>> in sin which i totally approve of..is now..every tom and helen's way of >>> doing things >>> things... >>> interesting,,mmmm... >>> >>> being at the cutting edge of relationship ideas in 1966... >>> and you tell me i"m not a feminist?... >>> am above all a humanist first and for most ,,for gender equality men and >>> women..even the bushmen of the kalahari desert had that right...and that >>> was umpteen years past... >>> >>> don't bullshit mike..we all know the old withered chap with plenty of >>> loot, dyed hair to the max... using viagra... >>> living out his youth fantasy with the blonde dolly handbag who loves him >>> for his loot.. >>> >>> if ya don't mike what bush have you been living under?.. >>> >>> merle >>> >>> >>> Merle, >>> >>> Don't know where I last met someone so judgemental and opinionated! I'm 48 >>> and mentioning 3 women equates to a "track record"?? What - are you a nun, >>> or something? Because my current partner (who is 34) and doesn't want to >>> "breed" - she's a "submissive handbag dolly bird"?!! Who'd you learn your >>> feminism from - Benny Hill? >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >>> >>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; >>> Subject: [Zen] sweet young lassie >>> Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 5:21:43 AM >>> >>> >>> >>> your track record if i might be so bold to say... >>> >>> correct me if i am wrong and your joy that lady 3 does not wish to breed... >>> >>> is it lady 3?.... >>> >>> and you seem to love and agree with edgar's posts on the sweet young lassie >>> ... merle >>> >>> >>> >>> Merle, >>> >>> How the hell did you come to that conclusion??? >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >>> >>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; >>> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate >>> Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 3:07:13 AM >>> >>> >>> >>> you would mike..cause you too hanker for the young submissive handbag >>> dolly bird!!!!!! merle >>> >>> Edgar, >>> >>> Haha! Even when you write things I agree with, you make it impossible for >>> me to agree with you! >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >>> >>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; >>> To: <[email protected]>; >>> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate >>> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 1:53:16 PM >>> >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> Exactly. Romeo was in his 20's or more and Juliet was 14. Pocahontas was 12 >>> or 13 when she took up with John Smith who was what? Late 20's or 30's? The >>> horrible ageism that destroys so many lives now days is a modern anomaly >>> dating from when women got the vote and used it to criminalize adult male >>> sex with young teenage girls they knew were more attractive on average to >>> their men. >>> >>> It's all about female jealousy trying to eliminate competition from younger >>> more attractive women. It is NOT about protective young teens if it >>> requires consent. >>> >>> It was and has been standard practice for teen girls to fall in love and >>> marry considerably older men throughout history. It's entirely natural >>> because older men are more successful and better able to care for a family, >>> and by marrying younger women men are able to ensure more and more healthy >>> children on average. >>> >>> It's entirely natural, and it is best for society as a whole because it >>> encourages more stable and healthy families, no matter what old jealous >>> biddies like Merle say... >>> >>> Edgar >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 25, 2013, at 8:51 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Merle, >>>> >>>> I've 3 kids including a daughter and my youngest son is 15. The problem I >>>> see following your argument is that you're trying to put a 60+ year head >>>> on a teenager's body. We've all done stupid things when we were kids that >>>> we regret and wouldn't dream of doing now as adults. But there's only a >>>> potential 2 year age gap between these kids. I think Bill is right. If >>>> this was about 2 heterosexual kids there'd be no fuss. Imagine how many >>>> schools have such relationships? Also, the age thing is totally arbitrary. >>>> Imagine going to Papua New Guinea and complaining about the same age >>>> difference between two village members.. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >>>> >>>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; >>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; >>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate >>>> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 12:41:45 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mike..well come to australia sydney..moderate muslims do speak up!.. >>>> i care little for whether kate is a criminal or not,, >>>> she knows the law..and she was so desperate with desire she could not >>>> wait... >>>> it's not the buddhist way... >>>> in her own mind how does she feel... >>>> jesus at 15...for christ sake i keep harping on about childhood and >>>> innocence.. >>>> did you experience the beauty of childhood and innocence..? >>>> do you have any kids?..do you understand what i am saying?... >>>> we have a lifetime to be adults in an adult world.. >>>> childhood and innocence is a fleeting moment... >>>> it is very precious... >>>> let's not rush ourselves head first all guns firing into adulthood and >>>> responsibilities... >>>> let's play a little let's have fun..innocent and free... >>>> that is why there are the laws to protect the innocent.. >>>> do you get it?... >>>> merle >>>> >>>> >>>> Merle, >>>> >>>> An act is illegal if there is a law prohibiting it. If you do that act you >>>> have committed a crime. If you're convicted of that crime by a court >>>> (which is what Tim is trying to prevent) then you are a 'criminal'. If you >>>> approve of that law (and you most certainly appear to), then you will by >>>> default be making the 18 year old a criminal. >>>> >>>> You could well be right about my judging of Islam, but I'm yet to be >>>> convinced by your argument, or anyone elses here, that I'm wrong. The >>>> evidence supporting my argument can be seen everyday all over the world. >>>> I've yet to see moderate Muslims protesting on the street that their >>>> religion is being hijacked by evil mean wrongfully killing in the name of >>>> their God. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >>>> >>>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; >>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; >>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate >>>> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 12:19:37 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mike.. >>>> >>>> did i say they were criminals?..who's judging now?.. >>>> >>>> don't you think this kinda thing happens on this side of the planet?... >>>> sure they may be friends..so how come everybody knows?... eh..keep it >>>> quiet..who squealed?... >>>> it is illegal in australia...the 15 year old is too young...what happened >>>> to innocence?... >>>> so kate at 18 is so desperate she can't wait? huh? >>>> don't give the shit about it happens regardless and why not?... >>>> >>>> a rational mind..come on edgar..this is where we use common sense and >>>> rational thinking do not let our instincts run away with us... >>>> >>>> mike this applies to dames and blokes in the back of the car and then get >>>> pregnant..mindlessness..rush rush in and just do it..never thinking what >>>> lies ahead... >>>> just plain stupid... all for what a bit of hopeless stumbling and fumbling >>>> in the dark ... >>>> >>>> in america and ireland..no abortion in many places and the catholic men >>>> preaching no pill no pill...plain stupid.. >>>> if that's been judgemental be it so... >>>> >>>> don't tell me you don't judge mike... >>>> your not santa claus with your sack of toys from greenland... >>>> your human like the rest of us on this forum... >>>> prone to judge.. >>>> >>>> prone to think ya right.. >>>> >>>> prone to criticise when what's been said doesn't suit your doctrines and >>>> your self made mantras... >>>> >>>> you made that bright and clear in your observations of islam... >>>> take a step back.. >>>> might those folk you so put into the basket as terrorists may they not be >>>> better called fundamentalists.. >>>> they come in many shades and colours and creeds... and include zen >>>> buddhists! >>>> one size cap doeth not fit all... >>>> >>>> now my turn to ring the gong... >>>> >>>> amen... >>>> >>>> merle >>>> >>>> Merle, >>>> >>>> Why be so quick to judge when we don't know the facts. They sound like >>>> they're school friends and might have had some kind of relationship for >>>> sometime. Why should someone on the other side of the planet (that's you) >>>> feel like they have the right to judge either of them as criminal? I >>>> thought you'd be against that kind of judgmentalism. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >>>> >>>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; >>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; >>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate >>>> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 9:08:06 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> it's illegal here hetro or homo... and for god sake..as i keep saying so >>>> desperate was kate?..merle >>>> >>>> Merle, >>>> >>>> It's illegal in the USA too. That's why she's being charged with felonies >>>> - probably statutory rape, corruption of a minor or child abuse. >>>> >>>> Tim and the people objecting to this say this would not be being >>>> prosecuted if it were a heterosexual relationship and is only being >>>> pursued because of the homosexual aspect. >>>> >>>> ...Bill! >>>> >>>> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Â she's 18 and the other is 15...illegal in australia!.... excuse me >>>> > could she not wait till the kiddy turned 16...so desperate!..merle >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Â >>>> > Â Do people here know about the Free Kate Campaign? If not see >>>> > www.freekate.net >>>> > Kaitlyn Hunt, 18,who made international headlines after being charged >>>> > with felonies for her same-sex relationship with a 15-year-old peer, has >>>> > refused a plea deal offered by the state attorney's office, according to >>>> > CBS affiliate WPEC. Under the state attorney's deal, Hunt would have >>>> > been labeled a sex offender and placed on two years' house arrest. >>>> > >>>> > Go to http://www.change.org/freekate to sign the petition. 280,500+ >>>> > signed by 5/25. FB page has 49,600 members. It goes on in every school >>>> > and only gets >>>> > prosecuted when the parents hate the older one. The law was meant for >>>> > predators and not lovers. The punishment is a lifetime sentence. Thanks. >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > >
