There is a very enjoyable Manga series on the life of Buddha by Osama Tezuka, actually. Some gorgeous art and a good story and an interesting if not orthodox take on his biography and teachings.
Thanks, --Chris 301-270-6524 On Jun 15, 2013 3:30 AM, "Edgar Owen" <[email protected]> wrote: > Uncle Scrooge was my favorite. > > But I outgrew them. > > Edgar > > > > On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > edgar...tolerance and compassion please... > > > > what is not a comic book to you? > > > > you are so so anti comic books > > > > did you actually ever get to read any as a kid? > > > > merle > > > > > > > > > > Merle and Bill, > > > > Total comic book BS..... Jesus, a "fully enlightened teacher" ? What > does that even mean to you two? Obviously nothing other than a warm fuzzy > ego feeling you can use to put some concept to bed without thinking about > it any more.... > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 2013, at 4:15 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> yes bill..me too i agree..merle > >> > >> Suresh, > >> > >> As you probably know I believe Jesus was a fully enlightened teacher. > I think he just taught and spoke using the language of Judaism - much the > way Buddha used the language of Hinduism. > >> > >> Two book I liked are: > >> > >> THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO ZEN which is a collection of writings by > various authors including Alan Watts, and focused on the Gnostic Gospel of > Thomas (which is not in the official Bible). > >> http://www.amazon.com/The-Gospel-According-Zen-Beyond/dp/0451627156 > >> > >> I also like THE MUSTARD SEED by Bagran Sri Rashneeh (AKA Osho) which > also focused on the Gospel of Thomas. > >> http://www.amazon.com/Mustard-Seed-Bhagwan-Shree-Rajneesh/dp/B000NXJ71M > >> > >> ...Bill! > >> > >> --- In [email protected], SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Jesus and Advaita:- > >>> > >>> HERE IS A COPY OF A MAIL RECEIVED FROM A FRIEND AND COMMENTS ARE > WELCOME > >>> > >>> Bible and christian quotes in the light of Advaita:- > >>> > >>> Here an attempt is being made to interpret the parables of Jesus, in > >>> the light of the knowledge contained in the innumerable scriptures of > >>> our ancient land of Bharat. When interpreted thus, all sectarian ideas > >>> imposed on the teachings of Christ, such as rejecting all alternative > >>> paths, other than Christianity as false, will disappear. The illogical > >>> tenets imposed by the Church such as making it mandatory for the whole > >>> world to accept the person Jesus as their saviour, in order to be > >>> saved from the eternal suffering in hell, finds no place in the real > >>> teachings of Christ. > >>> > >>> Christ's teachings are primarily concerned about the ultimate reality > >>> of the universe being one's real Self or consciousness. > >>> He necessitates the withdrawal of one's senses from the sense objects > >>> and relations of the world, so as to come into the eternal blissful > >>> state of being one with the Self, which he calls "Entering the Kingdom > >>> of Heaven". > >>> > >>> Hindu Rishis have declared, "Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahuta Vadanti" which > >>> means "Truth is ONE; the learned people call it by different names". > >>> This is a statement made by the Rishis who have attained self > realisation. > >>> The Rishi declares without an iota of doubt that Truth is one. > >>> They say this because they have fully realised it themselves. > >>> There is no scope for doubt. > >>> They say it with absolute conviction. > >>> They have seen the Truth themselves. > >>> Therefore they say, wherever the learned men are, they speak about > >>> this same Truth. > >>> Because there is no second Truth about which anyone can speak. > >>> Therefore the Rishi say, even though the learned men may use different > >>> names, they all speak about the same Truth. > >>> So whether you call it the `Kingdom of God', or you call it > >>> JeevanMukthi they all refer to the liberated state of the soul. > >>> > >>> The teachings of Jesus are very much in accordance with the Advaita > >>> Vedanta philosophy contained in Vedic texts. > >>> Jesus does not speak about a Kingdom of God, which shall be > >>> established in a future time. > >>> In fact the Kingdom of God transcends time itself and one shall enter > >>> it by living in the present moment, by connecting to one's inner Self. > >>> Jesus says that in order to realise the Father one must detach oneself > >>> from this objective manifested world which is impermanent, and > >>> meditate on the Self. > >>> > >>> Jesus is a spiritual master who has to be seen as a Self realised > >>> soul, a person who has attained the ultimate Goal prescribed in our > >>> scriptures. > >>> > >>> The Text of the Gospel of Thomas > >>> > >>> These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke. > >>> > >>> This opening words of this text, gives a very important clue. > >>> It says that the sayings are secret. > >>> If we study the teachings of Jesus, he himself says that Truth cannot > >>> be hidden and that it will reveal itself. > >>> There is nothing secret about the teachings of Christ, in the sense > >>> that it shouldn't be imparted to other people. > >>> > >>> If someone wants to experience sweetness merely hearing the word sweet > >>> is not enough. > >>> He must eat sugar himself so as to experience sweetness. > >>> > >>> And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings > >>> will not taste death." > >>> > >>> Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. > >>> 2When they find, they will be disturbed. 3When they are disturbed, > >>> they will marvel, 4and will rule over all." > >>> > >>> This verse throws light on the knowledge of Jesus Christ about the > >>> ultimate reality behind the universe. > >>> These are the words of a real master, who has discovered the Truth > himself. > >>> The words come from a man of absolute conviction, who does not have to > >>> think twice about what He is saying. > >>> Jesus instructs his followers that they should not stop seeking the > >>> Truth, until they find it. > >>> He says this because the path to self realisation is narrow and full > of thorns. > >>> > >>> The Isavasya Upanishad says that Truth is hidden by a golden vessel. > >>> The golden vessel is this objective world, which is a powerful > >>> distraction for the seeker. > >>> The seeker is likely to be distracted by this golden vessel that he > >>> fails to see the Truth covered by it. > >>> Jesus knows this fact very well. Man is being misguided by his senses > >>> towards the sense objects, which are just the imagination of the mind. > >>> > >>> The world is not real. It is the creation of your mind. > >>> If you have to know the ultimate reality, you must seek within > >>> yourself; because there lays the source of this manifested universe. > >>> It is from your consciousness that the world emerges. > >>> But your mind is conditioned to think of this world as real. > >>> It is so much attached to this world, which is its own creation that > >>> it finds it very difficult to withdraw itself from the world and take > >>> refuge in your self. > >>> > >>> Therefore Jesus says, you should not stop seeking until you find your > >>> Self, because it is very likely that u get distracted in the middle. > >>> Withdraw the senses, still your mind, and then you will find it. > >>> When the mental noise stops your inner Being reveals itself. > >>> You find the ultimate reality behind the universe. > >>> > >>> You will not find the Truth or God, if you seek it in this manifested > world. > >>> Science may attempt to find an ultimate answer about the origin of the > >>> universe. > >>> It may do the most expensive of all researches. > >>> But so long as it searches outside they will never find it; because > >>> the source lies within. It is our own consciousness. > >>> > >>> Jesus goes on to say that `When they find they will be disturbed'. > >>> When we realise that the world which we were so much attached to was > >>> nothing more than our own imagination, we will be shaken. > >>> When we come into contact with reality for the first time we will get > a shock. > >>> The Truth which becomes revealed to us on enquiry is the most > magnificent one. > >>> > >>> This marvellous blissful state is nearer to us than anything else, > >>> because it is our own self. We shall be marvelled by this realisation. > >>> This state of being whole, complete, perfect is what all the Beings > >>> aspire to become. > >>> Yet they don't know the means of attaining this. Every being on earth > >>> wants to become complete. For that they run after materials objects, > >>> with the hope that it makes them complete. On attainment of it they > >>> experience peace. But they don't realise that this peace did not come > >>> from outside. It is inherent in their Being. On fulfilling the desire, > >>> by the possession of external objects, the mind retires to its source, > >>> where it experiences joy and happiness. We are unnecessarily > >>> projecting our happiness into external objects and then we run after > >>> those objects. On fulfilling a desire the mind settles down, thereby > >>> our inherent peace will again become revealed. > >>> > >>> Jesus says, `When they are disturbed, they will marvel and will rule > >>> over all'. When the seeker discovers the inner peace, he shall marvel, > >>> because he now has the most precious possession in life. Everything > >>> else will fade in front of its glory. When the inner Self is > >>> discovered everything else ceases to exist for him, just as how the > >>> mirage in a desert ceases to exist as a reality in one's mind, on > >>> realising that it is an illusion. For the ignorant the mirage is real, > >>> but for the wise, it is just an illusion. Similarly when one realises > >>> the truth, that the world is just a movement in our own consciousness > >>> and that it does not have an existence of its own, one shall rule over > >>> all, because he is no more a slave to the world. He knows that he is > >>> the creator, sustainer and destroyer of the universe. > >>> > >>> read more... > >>> http://paritrana.blog.co.in/category/religion/jesus/ > >>> > >>> "I [Jesus] am in God, and you are in Me, and I am in you." > >>> John 14:12 > >>> > >>> For me it's a dualistic way to explain the unexplainable non-dual > >>> state which is the nature of God. It's the most available way of > >>> description of reality that Jesus could give to the Jewish people > >>> which were in a totally dual state of consciousness. > >>> > >>> Bible and christian quotes in the light of Advaita > >>> > >>> I AM THAT I AM > >>> > >>> The Kingdom of God is within you. > >>> > >>> Bible and christian quotes in the light of Advaita > >>> > >>> Quote > >>> "If you had known Me (Jesus), you also would have known My Father, and > >>> from this hour you do know Him and you have seen Him." > >>> John 14:7 > >>> > >>> Jesus confirms that which Advaita teaches. Guru (Jesus) is the full > >>> manifestation of God (Brahman) as Atman in Him. > >>> > >>> Re: Bible and christian quotes in the light of Advaita > >>> > >>> These are of the most profound expressions in Bible and at all. Some > >>> people argue that the correct translation of "within" is "among" or > >>> "in the midst of" but oldest Bible sources tanslate it as "within". > >>> > >>> I am that I am is the Name of the Lord that He Himself gave to the > world. > >>> > >>> Quote > >>> God said to Moses, "I AM WHO (THAT) I AM. This is what you are to say > >>> to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you'." Exodus 3:14 > >>> > >>> Quote > >>> Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would > >>> come, Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God does not come with your > >>> careful observation, nor will people say, `Here it is,' or `There it > >>> is,' because the kingdom of God is withinb you." > >>> Luke 17:20,21 > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Thanks and best regards > >>> J.Suresh > >>> New No.3, Old No.7, > >>> Chamiers road - 1st Lane, > >>> Alwarpet, > >>> Chennai - 600018 > >>> Ph: 044 42030947 > >>> Mobile: 91 9884071738 > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
