Chris, I do agree with you both in changing the emphasis on the term to 'meeting God', and I do agree with you that all these terms are made up after-the-fact to try to communicate a holistic experience in dualistic terms (language). Not an easy task.
I also think 'Buddha Nature' and especially 'God' have too many meanings now to be really useful. That's why I e-bend over backwards to clearly define what I mean when I use the term 'Buddha Nature'. It's definitely not the way Edgar uses it and different from Buddhist literature also. I don't think however it is much different than purely zen literature. Also I think most in the West (and Buddhist literature, and especially Edgar) have not trivialized Buddha Nature but super-sized it to mean EVERYTHING. I like the idea of trivializing it. That's what I try to do. Buddha Nature is quintessentially mundane. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > That is pretty much what Sensei Warner is calling the experience of meeting > God. Only afterwards, of course, not during. He favors this word over the > Buddha nature word for Westerners who have a tendency to trivialize Budda > nature. > > Thanks, > --Chris > 301-270-6524 > On Jun 16, 2013 9:40 AM, "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote: > > > Chris, > > > > Warner gets a demerit. > > > > One-Mind is the state where-from God can be perceived. > > > > From No-Mind there is no such thing. Nor is there anything else. > > > > --Joe > > > > > Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote: > > > > > > I think a more exact parallel is "meeting God" with "experiencing Buddha > > > nature." > > > > > > As a non-Christian mystic I wonder how you derived your theory of seeing > > > God being fundamentally distinct from no-mind. Surely you are not > > speaking > > > from experience? > > > > > > Credit to Brad Warner for this. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
