Bill, I think being a zombie is equivalent to being non-rational isn't it?
Therefore you clearly are a zombie! :-) Edgar On Jun 23, 2013, at 4:47 AM, Bill! wrote: > Mike, > > Merle's right. If the films were made by zombies or werewolves I imagine > humans would be the villains. > > Which reminds me... > > A couple posts ago I wrote: > > "I wouldn't want to be a zombie or werewolf." > > ...but if I were a zombie or werewolf I would have probably written: > > "I wouldn't want to be a human." > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Â mike...the films were made by humans... merle > > Â > > Joe, > > > > Wow, all those zombie and werewolf movies got it wrong then. Don't try to > > survive. Just get bit and enjoy your new nature eating brains and ripping > > people apart. Maybe we should also feel somewhat envious of brain-damaged > > car accident survivors.? After all, they have no ability to know they no > > longer have a self to transcend. > > > > Mike > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Joe <desert_woodworker@...>; > > To: <[email protected]>; > > Subject: Re: [Zen] how good is that? > > Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 2:51:09 PM > > > > > > Â > > Mike, > > > > I have a feeling that animals don't have the sense that they have a "self". > > > > Thus, for them, there is nothing to surmount, nor to transcend, because a > > self is not in fact a part of their psyche. > > > > I say "in fact", but that is part of my assertion (it would be hard to test > > or to prove). > > > > We only gauge that Humans have a "self" because they say they do, or they > > say that they feel that they do (they never prove it to us); and, by > > personal introspection. > > > > However, after (our) sufficient personal introspection, we find no self, > > but find a nature which had merely been covered, for long, by illusory > > mental activity and our holding of images or sensations before the mind, > > like a screen, via "thoughts" that we could not let go of, for various and > > multiple reasons. > > > > The fact that Humans *can* slough off the sense of a sense and return to > > their original nature is a good escape hatch, but one that animals do not > > need. > > > > Animal don't need the medicine, because they were never ill. > > > > To me, it seems that animals very gracefully accept the way that they must > > live: > > > > It seems that Humans make themselves take it on the chin, > > While animals live in utter Grace. > > Human beings labor to regain their Original Face, > > While even Dung Beetles have a shit-eatin' grin! > > > > --Joe > > > > > uerusuboyo@ wrote: > > > > > > Bill!,<br/><br/>Like I said in another post, it's not a question of being > > > superior to animals (good or bad), but that we have the potential to > > > transcend the self and realise our true nature - true peace and happiness > > > that comes with a cessation of suffering. No other animal that we know of > > > can do that. It's not because we're chosen or have been singled out, but > > > because evolution has gone that way for us (whether that's a natural > > > consequence of life and evolution, I don't know). Spiders and foxes > > > blindly follow their instincts with no ability for introspection/empathy > > > towards others in regard of their actions. Are you seriously saying that > > > unwaveringly following their nature is more exalted than our ability to > > > do those things?? You and Merle can bemoan the fact you weren't born as > > > ants or fruit-bats, but I'll rejoice in my humanity and "strive" to reach > > > our highest potential. > > > >
