hey hey hey.... where is your zen bible?..just drink tea, just eat rice... just sleep......there is no talk of discussions god etc..mike..take stock of yourself... merle
Mike, As I'm sure even Bill would agree "God, the Absolute and Nirvana" are all mental illusions. I don't see that humans discussing them does any good or has any meaning at all or is any sense of pride.... Animals don't discuss reality, they live it! Edgar On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:26 AM, [email protected] wrote: >Edgar, > >I'm glad you said that not understanding the natural world is not zen. That's >your goose cooked then. Humans are unique in the animal kingdom in being >spiritual beings. Go on Dr Doolittle, tell us how you communicate with the >animals and discuss God, the Absolute and Nirvana. > >Mike > > >Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > > >________________________________ > From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; >To: <[email protected]>; >Subject: Re: [Zen] rise above to where? >Sent: Mon, Jun 24, 2013 12:09:37 PM > > > >Bill and Mike, > > >You guys are parroting generations old biology. Not understanding the natural >world is not Zen... > > >Statements such as yours demonstrates the lack of intelligence and empathy of >humans, not animals... > > >Edgar > > > > > > >On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Bill! wrote: > > >>Mike, >> >>I agree with you that I know of no other animal, or any other sentient being, >>that has that ability. But as I've said I'm not sure whether that is a >>blessing or a curse. It's a bit of both I guess. >> >>...Bill! >> >>--- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@... wrote: >>> >>> Merle,<br/><br/>That might be your point, but it's not mine. The tiger is >>> doing nothing wrong by following its instincts and eating you: it's nothing >>> personal - you're just lunch. I get that. But the tiger has no choice - >>> it's blindly following its instinct to survive. It has no idea of the >>> suffering it inflicts on you. Humans on the other hand can act against >>> self-interest, even if it harms themselves, because of they have an >>> awareness of the other's suffering. Just because there are more instances >>> of the opposite occurring doesn't negate that we *do* have that ability to >>> a much higher degree than any other animal. Like I said, it's not because >>> we've been divinely chosen, but because of the quirks of evolution >>> affecting human development. We are a spiritual animal. We know of no other >>> animal that is so.<br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for >>> iPad >>> >> >> > > >
