Merle,

It could be fun with you. Want to try?
:-)

Edgar



On Jun 25, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Merle Lester wrote:

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> 
>  ass yoga..interesting..is it fun?..merle
> 
>  
> Edgar,
> 
> Does it need pointing out to you that I said in an earlier post that having 
> one unique attribute DOES NOT MAKE US SUPERIOR TO OTHER ANIMALS. Pointing out 
> that attribute is *not* trashing" other animals. It's like saying I'm 
> trashing bats because they don't have the same vision as us (yes, a bat's 
> 'vision' is more acute than ours, yawn). And when you understand the first 
> thing about Zen you can lecture me. In the meantime I'd just practice your 
> ass-yoga.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; 
> To: <[email protected]>; 
> Subject: Re: [Zen] rise above to where? 
> Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 11:22:13 AM 
> 
>  
> Mike and Joe (and Merle fyi),
> 
> It is typically the most insecure of men that trash animals in a vain attempt 
> to prove their superiority over them.
> 
> Feeling incomplete and insecure in themselves they seek illusory completeness 
> by trashing other beings so they can feel superior by comparison.
> 
> This is NOT Zen. If you realize Zen mind you ARE complete in yourself and 
> have no need of trashing any other being human or animal!
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:36 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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>> Merle,
>> 
>> No confusion here whatsoever. Human's have the ability/potential to act with 
>> compassion in every action (***regardless*** of examples where they don't). 
>> Animals don't have, or don't demonstrate this, anywhere near human's 
>> capabilities. A dog waiting for his master to come home. Or a kitten 
>> suckling from a pig isn't the same thing. Man has had religious beliefs and 
>> practiced religious rituals for millennia. Where's the same evidence for any 
>> other species spiritual practices?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>> 
>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] rise above to where? 
>> Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:37:20 AM 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>  mike..it's not dumbing down we need but greater clarification...your 
>> confused state of mind is at fault here..merle
>>  
>> Edgar,
>> 
>> I don't know how I could dumb it down any further for you and Merle.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>> 
>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; 
>> To: <[email protected]>; 
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] rise above to where? 
>> Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 2:11:05 AM 
>> 
>>  
>> Mike,
>> 
>> If that's so you are having a lot of difficulty expressing your point which 
>> seems quite the opposite...
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:42 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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>>>  
>>> Edgar, Merle,
>>> 
>>> You two should really knock your heads together! Edgar, you've just cited a 
>>> story proving my point and Merle chimes in with"Beautiful!". Like the 
>>> Abbott and Costello of the Zen forum..
>>> 
>>> Mike 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>>> 
>>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] rise above to where? 
>>> Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 12:27:03 AM 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  beautiful edgar.... beautiful...!!!!!!!!... the point that joe cannot get 
>>> his head around is...tiger eat lunch...murderers kill for killing's 
>>> sake..though some have known to make it their lunch as well... being a 
>>> burger for a tiger is a good plan...merle
>>>  
>>> Joe,
>>> 
>>> Apparently you're ignorant of the story of the Buddhist monk who gave his 
>>> body to the hungry mother tiger to feed her starving cubs?
>>> 
>>> Edgar
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Joe wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Merle,
>>>> 
>>>> Once you're dead, it's only the aftermath of the death that could possibly 
>>>> matter.
>>>> 
>>>> If a Tiger eats you, no one gets to use your organs. Your organs could 
>>>> save and improve the lives of 5 or 6 people. Tiger only gets one meal out 
>>>> of you. Two days later, she'll need another meal. That's not great use of 
>>>> Human tissue. But organ donation has that beat by miles.
>>>> 
>>>> See you're just now speaking about "the fact", the fact in your present 
>>>> case. But that's too miniscule a conversation, and should not concern us 
>>>> here. Speaking in general, it's better to be shot dead than to be eaten by 
>>>> a Tiger.
>>>> 
>>>> I know you agree, now that you've refreshed your view of what we're 
>>>> actually talking about.
>>>> 
>>>> No one wants the cataract-y corneas of most of us "Seniors". Except Tigers.
>>>> 
>>>> Stay clear of Tigers, and gun-totin' killers, just the same. Long life!
>>>> 
>>>> --Joe
>>>> 
>>>> > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > that's not the point joe...
>>>> > a tiger is doing what a tiger does..having lunch..
>>>> > a murderer is going against the grain of.."thou shalt not kill"...what's 
>>>> > organ donation got to do with this?... 
>>>> > if your over 70 no one wants your worn out organs here in australia.. 
>>>> > only the corneas...
>>>> 
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