Joe,

LOL! Bill is the asteroid bent on destroying Buddhism!
:-)

Edgar



On Jul 2, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Joe wrote:

> Bill!,
> 
> quoting:
> "I think Buddhism itself needs to be discarded completely."
> 
> Face it: it cannot be. It is a living thing. Living things evolve. I see no 
> asteroid coming to smack it.
> 
> Zen practice is a personal choice for a person who can cut to the chase, 
> ...or who can embrace nothing else.
> 
> Other practice is available for folks with a different bent.
> 
> I think, again, that your view of "need" is a personal one. If it's a more 
> extensive view, then I say, "get on with accomplishing it".
> 
> Remember the objection against considering to end the war in Vietnam?:
> 
> "What are you going to replace it with?"
> 
> But I think you have personally already discarded Buddhism; you call your 
> practice "Zen", not "Zen Buddhism". It would seem already that Buddhism 
> should not annoy you.
> 
> Where else do you mean you would like to see it discarded? And, for what 
> PRACTICAL purpose? Is it like a swarm of mosquitoes that annoys you?
> 
> Or do you, as a Bodhisattva, feel that it is causing sentient beings to 
> suffer?
> 
> coffee time,
> 
> best!,
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> > 
> > I think Buddhism itself needs to be discarded completely.
> > 
> > Zen, on the other hand, as it's presented in a lot of zen literature is 
> > presented very simply and very effectively. There is some zen literature 
> > that is complex also, but most of that is either trying to resolve zen with 
> > Buddhism or explain in an almost technical style the experience of Buddha 
> > Nature.
> > 
> > Anyway, I'm just more supportive of the KISS school - and the simpler the 
> > better.
> 
> 

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