Joe, I do feel that Buddhism proper causes humans to suffer. I feel that it gives them a false sense (an intellectually-based belief) that they know what awakening is and how to conduct themselves in accordance with someone else's teachings who they believe was awakened. In truth it probably makes them feel better, but it keeps them from going further - to awaken themselves.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote: > > Bill!, > > quoting: > "I think Buddhism itself needs to be discarded completely." > > Face it: it cannot be. It is a living thing. Living things evolve. I see > no asteroid coming to smack it. > > Zen practice is a personal choice for a person who can cut to the chase, > ...or who can embrace nothing else. > > Other practice is available for folks with a different bent. > > I think, again, that your view of "need" is a personal one. If it's a more > extensive view, then I say, "get on with accomplishing it". > > Remember the objection against considering to end the war in Vietnam?: > > "What are you going to replace it with?" > > But I think you have personally already discarded Buddhism; you call your > practice "Zen", not "Zen Buddhism". It would seem already that Buddhism > should not annoy you. > > Where else do you mean you would like to see it discarded? And, for what > PRACTICAL purpose? Is it like a swarm of mosquitoes that annoys you? > > Or do you, as a Bodhisattva, feel that it is causing sentient beings to > suffer? > > coffee time, > > best!, > > --Joe > > > "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > I think Buddhism itself needs to be discarded completely. > > > > Zen, on the other hand, as it's presented in a lot of zen literature is > > presented very simply and very effectively. There is some zen literature > > that is complex also, but most of that is either trying to resolve zen with > > Buddhism or explain in an almost technical style the experience of Buddha > > Nature. > > > > Anyway, I'm just more supportive of the KISS school - and the simpler the > > better. > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
