Bill!,<br/><br/>It's just two sides of the same coin. Zen just gets you to awaken with very little explanation and instruction - The sutras explain the processes of the mind that create a self and suffering and the steps necessary to awaken and be liberated. Both work. Zen is a steep cliff-face that can get you to the top quickly, but you'll see few at the top. 'Buddhism' is a less steep and longer winding route that takes longer to reach the summit, but is more accessible and will see more people reach the top.<br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
- [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage Joe
- [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage Bill!
- Re: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... Edgar Owen
- [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage Joe
- [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage Bill!
- [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage Joe
- Re: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... Edgar Owen
- Fw: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... Merle Lester
- Fw: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... Joe
- [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage Bill!
- RE: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... uerusuboyo
- [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage Bill!
- RE: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... uerusuboyo
- RE: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... uerusuboyo
- [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage Bill!
- Re: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... Edgar Owen
- Re: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... uerusuboyo
- Re: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... Merle Lester
- Re: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... 覺妙精明 (JMJM)
- Re: [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rag... Chris Austin-Lane
- [Zen] Re: Fw: It was like Shiva dancing in rage Bill!
