Chris, It's really dumb to say math doesn't communicate! Of course it does...
Edgar On Jul 4, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > > I have to share Bill's disagreement of math being a language or even being > communicative. > > Thanks, > --Chris > 301-270-6524 > On Jul 3, 2013 10:48 PM, "Merle Lester" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > mathematics is a universal language as is art and music..merle > > PBS, > > Math, logic, reason like all delusions should come with the caveat 'suitable > for everyday use'. As a universal human language to communicate our logical > concepts it's very useful, but it should never be mistaken for reality. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], <pandabananasock@...> wrote: > > > > Bill!: > > You're gonna ignore the math? I thought you said you were looking for an > > impersonal language a couple posts ago... :D > > > > The thing about using math that way is that eventually it leads you back to > > the beginning. We use mathematics as an expression of the model, then we > > use the model as an expression of the math. Then we realize that both are > > models of each other and the same, and experience encompasses all -- no > > need for anything else. Rivers and mountains become rivers and mountains > > again! > > ~PeeBeeEss > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 7/3/13, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Say Bye-Bye to the Delusion of Cause-and-Effect and Karma > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2013, 8:56 AM > > > > PBS (That's going to be my TLA (Three > > Letter Acronym) for Pandabananasock from now on)... > > > > I'll ignore all the math but do agree that JUST IF there is > > such a think that could be called 'karma' it's not so much a > > moralistic cause-and-effect as it is an intrinsic quality of > > the act itself. > > > > But, I'll continue to poo-poo all claims of karma. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], > > pandabananasock@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Most people think of "1+1=2" as procedural, that is, > > that there is 1, THEN we add 1 to it, THEN it becomes > > 2. They would regard "2=1+1" and "2=2" to be different > > equations, but they are not in the least bit > > different. The equal-sign is the present. > > > "1+1" is already 2! And the effect IS the > > cause. Your karmic punishment for doing something > > "bad" is you doing that "bad" thing. Your karmic > > reward for doing something "good" is you doing that "good" > > thing. Forget the come-back-to-bite-you BS! > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 4:58 AM EDT Bill! wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have > > read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups > > Links > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > >
