I also found an article on Tricycle
http://www.tricycle.com/feature/joy-effort

by Thanissaro Bhikkhu, titled  "The Joy of Effort.

>From the website article:

"Now, the Buddha wasn’t telling Rahula to become a passive clod of dirt. He
was teaching Rahula to be grounded, to develop his powers of endurance, so
that he’d be able to observe both pleasant and painful events in his body
and mind without becoming engrossed in the pleasure or blown away by the
pain. This is what patience does. It helps you sit with things until you
understand them well enough to respond to them skillfully."
I have listened to Bhikkhu on YouTube a few times, but the article really
caught and held my interest

M



On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote:

> I guess the offer for a free book was impermanent... ;>)
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In [email protected], "Eccentrics.R.US" <HALatMOTHERSHIP@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I too went to the ChanCenter and also enjoyed many readings today.
> >
> > I don't know where I found the following link,
> > http://amidatrust.ning.com/
> >
> > but they were offering a link to a free kindle book from amazon called
> > 'Not Everything is Impermanent' by Dharmavidya David Brazier.
> >
> > I was too late to get the free book but the web site has some free audios
> > taken from the book and I downloaded them.  They also have a podcast
> > that has not been updated yet.
> >
> > If you find the free audios for the book Not Everything is Impermanent,
> > right click on the link to each individual file and save as mp3 or wave
> form
> > to your documents.  You can listen to them at your leisure and then
> > can determine if you want to read the book or not.
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I did read this newsletter and thought it was excellent!
> > >
> > > The only exception I would have with it is its claim that "When the
> method
> > > of silent illumination was taken to Japan it was changed somewhat. The
> name
> > > given to it, "just sitting", means just paying attention to sitting or
> just
> > > keeping the physical posture of sitting, and this was the new
> emphasis."
> > >
> > > This was not the way shikantaza (just sitting) was explained to me from
> > > two different Japanese Zen Buddhist roshis.  In fact shikantaza was
> > > explained exactly as the way "silent illumination" is defined in this
> > > newsletter.  The only difference I could find was the breaking the
> > > experience into three stages as is done at the bottom of this article.
>  The
> > > zen training I received did not at all emphasize a lot of stages of
> things
> > > or a specific number of this or that like Buddhism in general does.  My
> > > training was very sparse on explanation, especially explanation which
> goes
> > > down into great detail.  Teaching was by example accompanied with very
> > > terse explanations, and emphasized doing (experience) over learning
> > > (understanding).
> > >
> > > ...Bill!
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill!,<br/><br/>If you have time, take a look at this 1995 newsletter
> > > from Chan Center. <br/><br/>
> > >
> http://chancenter.org/cmc/1995/02/01/shikantaza-and-silent-illumination/
> <br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/><br/>Sent
> > > from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or
> are
> > > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
> reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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