Merle,
"Seeing things as they really are" is another way of saying "Buddha Nature", at
least that's how I interpret it.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Â
> Â question bill...do any of us really see things as they really are?...and
> who is the judge and jury to say that this has happened to one?
> i think it might be a goal to work towards however individuals who achieve
> this fully would be few and far  between
> Â already you complain of pain as a burden in a previous post...when in
> reality it is a matter of acceptance
> merle
>
>
> Â
> Aham,
>
> IMO zen is a set of teachings that first enable you to experience Buddha
> Nature ("to see things as they really are" in Vipassana-speak) and then to
> incorporate that experience into your daily life.
>
> These teachings usually do employ a meditation technique - zazen - which in
> Japanese means 'sit zen'. Although there are many beginning techniques used
> to learn to do zazen and the most popular does involve using the breath as
> does Vipassana; but all zen techniques (zazen, koan study, chanting, bowing,
> etc...) are all geared to bring you eventually to a meditative state called
> 'shikantaza' which means 'just sit' or 'only sit' in Japanese. It is the
> same (I believe) as what the Buddhist Sutras refer to as 'samadhi'. It is in
> this state that you may experience Buddha Nature ("see things as they really
> are").
>
> From what little I know about Vipassana there are a lot of similarities with
> zen, and of course there should be if they are both taking you to the same
> place.
>
> There are participants in this forum that know more about Vipassana than I,
> and also participants that probably have a different opinion of what zen is
> than I've just wrote out.
>
> I hope you'll hear from them.
>
> Welcome to the Zen Forum...
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "reconceiving1942" <aham@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new here in this group.
> > I am familiar with some meditation techiques, where vipassana became the
> > strongest one for me.
> >
> > What exactly is zen?
> > is zen a mediation technique or a quality of life?
> > If so, can any one describe this quality?
> >
> > Aham
> >
>
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