I agree with what JMJM has written below...Bill!
--- In [email protected], 覺å¦ç²¾æ ï¼JMJMï¼ <chan.jmjm@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Merle,
>
> Chan historically is a mixture of Buddhist language and Taoist
> practice. If you read the Xinxinming by the third patriarch, it sounds
> very much like Tao Te Jing by Lao Tzu.
>
> Bill is right that the essence of Chan existed when there is universe,
> before language or human being.
>
> We don't have to be a Buddhist to practice Chan.
>
> Chan is a tool, boat, method for us to let our divine shine through.
>
> Even Bill calls the divine within, Buddha Nature, yet we need to be
> mindful that Bill is not a Buddhist. :-(
>
> JM
>
>
> On 8/22/2013 4:00 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
> >
> > JM.... CLARIFICATION...please..
> >
> > bill say he practises zen however he is not a buddhist...
> > i was under the impression zen was part and parcel of buddhism...
> > that zen is the way we can approach buddha nature... and let it shine
> > through..
> > zen is a tool, not an end game in itself?... thank you JM...merle
> >
> > Dear Aham,
> >
> > Zen is about letting our inner divine, labeled as Buddha Nature, to
> > shine through. Let it be our guide in our daily life. And the only
> > way that it may shine through depends on the purification of our
> > physical, mental and spiritual hindrances.
> >
> > Because our inner divine, same as the external almighty, is all
> > knowing, all wise, all powerful, all harmonious.
> >
> > JM
> >
> >
> > On 8/22/2013 2:07 AM, Bill! wrote:
> >> Aham,
> >>
> >> IMO zen is a set of teachings that first enable you to experience
> >> Buddha Nature ("to see things as they really are" in Vipassana-speak)
> >> and then to incorporate that experience into your daily life.
> >>
> >> These teachings usually do employ a meditation technique - zazen -
> >> which in Japanese means 'sit zen'. Although there are many beginning
> >> techniques used to learn to do zazen and the most popular does
> >> involve using the breath as does Vipassana; but all zen techniques
> >> (zazen, koan study, chanting, bowing, etc...) are all geared to bring
> >> you eventually to a meditative state called 'shikantaza' which means
> >> 'just sit' or 'only sit' in Japanese. It is the same (I believe) as
> >> what the Buddhist Sutras refer to as 'samadhi'. It is in this state
> >> that you may experience Buddha Nature ("see things as they really are").
> >>
> >> From what little I know about Vipassana there are a lot of
> >> similarities with zen, and of course there should be if they are both
> >> taking you to the same place.
> >>
> >> There are participants in this forum that know more about Vipassana
> >> than I, and also participants that probably have a different opinion
> >> of what zen is than I've just wrote out.
> >>
> >> I hope you'll hear from them.
> >>
> >> Welcome to the Zen Forum...
> >>
> >> ...Bill!
> >>
> >> --- In [email protected]
> >> <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, "reconceiving1942" <aham@>
> >> <mailto:aham@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I am new here in this group.
> >> > I am familiar with some meditation techiques, where vipassana
> >> became the strongest one for me.
> >> >
> >> > What exactly is zen?
> >> > is zen a mediation technique or a quality of life?
> >> > If so, can any one describe this quality?
> >> >
> >> > Aham
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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