Al,
 
I would also like to learn more of what other's see as "compassion" -- we tackled this a little back, when wai helped show me that "compassion" is also the stairs to the water-slide, not just the ride down as you recall.  However, I would like to see it cleared up a bit more -- Mike and I were both a little frustrated by other's claiming dirt to be rubies... (Boy I really DO use too many metaphors, don't I, lol).  But where there is frustration, is usually soemthing I dislike in me -- thus i must use contrived compassion for some foolish thing myself ... no time like the present to ferret it out.  Where is it? 
 
However, as far as how we use zen as a tool, or implementing zen, I recalled this from Vajracchedika:
Just so, Subhuti, I obtained not the least thing from unexcelled, complete awakening, and for this very reason it is called "unexcelled, complete awakening.".
 
Conclusions draw to zen, not from it...  If we absolutely must, let us hear about they use their lives to be zen, rather than the other way -- although I fear others lives are as uninteresting as mine :) so I hope this isn't a 'license to ill' about how I cut an orange in mindfulness, etc...
 
Rod Scholl
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Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion

From: jayryunen I may be mistaken, but I think what you are getting at is just what is compassion?
I think that you are correct to some degree. What is compassion to you? How do you act to make a difference in your daily life? I think that is what is frustrating me about purely abstract discussions regarding book knowledge which is occasionally illuminated by abstract discussions regarding Monk knowledge. I would like to see some discussions of how we have used Zen in our daily lives as a tool. What is the good that Zen does for you and others? How do you implement Zen in your life?


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