--- mackkup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> my take is that you want people to think outside the
> box. thats good
> but i also believe that we need help from a higher
> authority to
> achieve our lofty goals.
The Buddha had admonished us: "Be the lamps unto
yourselves". He also said:
"You are yourselves your own protector;
Who else is there to be your guardian?
If you are wise and discipline yourselves
You will indeed attain to higher birth."
Waiting for the higher authority to help us is not in
accordance with the Buddha's teaching. He had actively
and explicitly discouraged such an attitude as being
counter-productive to spiritual practice.
Of course, people are free to think and believe
however and whatever they want, just as long as no one
else gets blamed for their failure.
> > You are right. It's only that I think your
> diagnosis
> > is a bit off. I wouldn't say that most people give
> the
> > appearance of being happy on the outside while
> > actually being unhappy on the inside. The
> situation is
> > completely reverse -- most people give the
> appearance
> > of being unhappy on the ouside, but they are
> actually
> > happy on the inside.
>
> peoples actions conflict with this theory. if people
> were happy on
> the inside all the violence, hate, war and whatever
> negative word you
> want to put in there would not be going on.
> Mack
Buddhist practitioners train themselves not to fall
victims of the substantialist views. Thus, they attain
the realization that phenomena are peaceful, phenomena
are unborn. That means that nothing ever gets
produced.
People's actions and views conflict with that theory.
Ordinary people plainly see that the world is
produced, and that production is an ongoing process,
which never seems to stop.
Does that mean that the Buddha and countless other
Buddhist practitioners are wrong? Can we use ordinary
people's actions and views as being the final arbiter
in these matters?
Alex
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