--- In [email protected], Alex Bunard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- mackkup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > my take is that you want people to think outside the > > box. thats good > > but i also believe that we need help from a higher > > authority to > > achieve our lofty goals. > > The Buddha had admonished us: "Be the lamps unto > yourselves". He also said: > > "You are yourselves your own protector; > Who else is there to be your guardian? > If you are wise and discipline yourselves > You will indeed attain to higher birth."
i whole heartedly agree. > > Waiting for the higher authority to help us is not in > accordance with the Buddha's teaching. He had actively > and explicitly discouraged such an attitude as being > counter-productive to spiritual practice. i never said to wait for help. while helping yourself a higher authority will help if you honestly ask for it. Mack > > Of course, people are free to think and believe > however and whatever they want, just as long as no one > else gets blamed for their failure. we are responsible for our feelings. unfortunately most people want to blame everything and everyone else for them. Mack > > > > You are right. It's only that I think your > > diagnosis > > > is a bit off. I wouldn't say that most people give > > the > > > appearance of being happy on the outside while > > > actually being unhappy on the inside. The > > situation is > > > completely reverse -- most people give the > > appearance > > > of being unhappy on the ouside, but they are > > actually > > > happy on the inside. > > > > peoples actions conflict with this theory. if people > > were happy on > > the inside all the violence, hate, war and whatever > > negative word you > > want to put in there would not be going on. > > Mack > > Buddhist practitioners train themselves not to fall > victims of the substantialist views. Thus, they attain > the realization that phenomena are peaceful, phenomena > are unborn. That means that nothing ever gets > produced. > > People's actions and views conflict with that theory. > Ordinary people plainly see that the world is > produced, and that production is an ongoing process, > which never seems to stop. > > Does that mean that the Buddha and countless other > Buddhist practitioners are wrong? Can we use ordinary > people's actions and views as being the final arbiter > in these matters? > > Alex im sorry but i didnt understand what the hell you were getting at here. you cannot distort truth. truth is truth. if you are aware of your surroundings(which you should be) than you would know what misery is taking place. im not saying its up to you to change it cause you cannot, you can only change yourself. All the strife thats going on in the world is not an example of people that are happy. >Mack > > ===== > No karma was produced during the composition of this letter > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/hjtSRD/3MnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
