you say it, you write it, you preach it. but you do not
 do it.

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From: "Rod Scholl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Zen] reality


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> Agreed Mackkup!
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> I would augment the predicament with the saying about 'not needing to push 
> the river'.   I see the choices of trying to turn the river our own 
> direction, or to let the river carry us where it wills like a cork.  But 
> both options are likely to get your head smashed on a rock...
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> The alternative is the realization that we are trying to push it here, 
> here and here at the expense of all that other stuff.  As though we could 
> choose to push only a few narrow strips of water while the other parts 
> just adapt smoothly.  But this method creates eddies and whirlpools and a 
> rough ride for all.
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> So I don't think its a matter of letting the river steer as though you 
> have no choice, but rather that you are most effective when moving at the 
> same speed as the river when trying to move it.
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> It is through practice we learn what is not too fast or too slow.  Or 
> better put, let go of striving, to surge forward and let go trying to 
> cling to a mossy rock.  When we ride with the arising events/river our 
> definition of self expands more easily beyond a single current or two --  
> and I suspect THEN we see the way reality flows, and that it is jsut how 
> we would have it flow.
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> Phew -- a thin analogy by the end, but I love a challenge :)
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> Rod
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> Sent: Thu 2/24/2005 6:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
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> reality flows the way it flows. it doesnt flow the way you want it to
> flow. I am learning this concept but often i let it slip thru the
> cracks. When i want reality to flow my way thats when i get angry,
> anxious or upset. this can never be the case for reality flows its
> way and never for anybody else. the sooner i can accept this fact the
> easier my life will be. i believe my internal struggle has alot to do
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> Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right 
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