no, 'the idea' is not enough, you have to 'do' it, in the right way, not only this but also that. cella ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Scholl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: RE: [Zen] reality
> > I'll assume you mean "do it enough"...or "do it on this list" etc. rather > than "do it at all". > > In that case, how do you advise I accomplish doing it more? > > Rod > > ________________________________ > > From: cella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 7:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Zen] reality > > > > > you say it, you write it, you preach it. but you do not > do it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Scholl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:06 PM > Subject: RE: [Zen] reality > > >> >> Agreed Mackkup! >> >> I would augment the predicament with the saying about 'not needing to >> push >> the river'. I see the choices of trying to turn the river our own >> direction, or to let the river carry us where it wills like a cork. But >> both options are likely to get your head smashed on a rock... >> >> The alternative is the realization that we are trying to push it here, >> here and here at the expense of all that other stuff. As though we could >> choose to push only a few narrow strips of water while the other parts >> just adapt smoothly. But this method creates eddies and whirlpools and a >> rough ride for all. >> >> So I don't think its a matter of letting the river steer as though you >> have no choice, but rather that you are most effective when moving at the >> same speed as the river when trying to move it. >> >> It is through practice we learn what is not too fast or too slow. Or >> better put, let go of striving, to surge forward and let go trying to >> cling to a mossy rock. When we ride with the arising events/river our >> definition of self expands more easily beyond a single current or two -- >> and I suspect THEN we see the way reality flows, and that it is jsut how >> we would have it flow. >> >> Phew -- a thin analogy by the end, but I love a challenge :) >> >> Rod >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: mackkup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thu 2/24/2005 6:50 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Zen] reality >> >> >> >> >> >> reality flows the way it flows. it doesnt flow the way you want it to >> flow. I am learning this concept but often i let it slip thru the >> cracks. When i want reality to flow my way thats when i get angry, >> anxious or upset. this can never be the case for reality flows its >> way and never for anybody else. the sooner i can accept this fact the >> easier my life will be. i believe my internal struggle has alot to do >> with the resistance of this fact. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right >> Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right >> Livelihood >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right >> Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right >> Livelihood >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right > Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right > Livelihood > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right > Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right > Livelihood > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/hjtSRD/3MnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
