I'll assume you mean "do it enough"...or "do it on this list" etc. rather than "do it at all". In that case, how do you advise I accomplish doing it more? Rod
________________________________ From: cella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 7:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Zen] reality you say it, you write it, you preach it. but you do not do it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Scholl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: RE: [Zen] reality > > Agreed Mackkup! > > I would augment the predicament with the saying about 'not needing to push > the river'. I see the choices of trying to turn the river our own > direction, or to let the river carry us where it wills like a cork. But > both options are likely to get your head smashed on a rock... > > The alternative is the realization that we are trying to push it here, > here and here at the expense of all that other stuff. As though we could > choose to push only a few narrow strips of water while the other parts > just adapt smoothly. But this method creates eddies and whirlpools and a > rough ride for all. > > So I don't think its a matter of letting the river steer as though you > have no choice, but rather that you are most effective when moving at the > same speed as the river when trying to move it. > > It is through practice we learn what is not too fast or too slow. Or > better put, let go of striving, to surge forward and let go trying to > cling to a mossy rock. When we ride with the arising events/river our > definition of self expands more easily beyond a single current or two -- > and I suspect THEN we see the way reality flows, and that it is jsut how > we would have it flow. > > Phew -- a thin analogy by the end, but I love a challenge :) > > Rod > > > ________________________________ > > From: mackkup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thu 2/24/2005 6:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Zen] reality > > > > > > reality flows the way it flows. it doesnt flow the way you want it to > flow. I am learning this concept but often i let it slip thru the > cracks. When i want reality to flow my way thats when i get angry, > anxious or upset. this can never be the case for reality flows its > way and never for anybody else. the sooner i can accept this fact the > easier my life will be. i believe my internal struggle has alot to do > with the resistance of this fact. > > > > > > > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right > Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right > Livelihood > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right > Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right > Livelihood > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WwRTUD/SOnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
