--- 
I to have the same questions, for anxious feelings invade my thoughts 
as well. I have made the attempt at following the feeling to see 
where it originated but have never been successful and finding its 
source(i know its in me but what started it?). I say this because i 
still get those anxious feelings. I must not be persistent enough 
or......? I feel if i get to the core of it and understand it, it 
will leave me. I have also done the opposite by trying to ignore it 
or just get past it and that hasnt helped at all. It would be great 
to get away from my mind when im getting these negative feelings but 
its true when they say you have to take you with you where ever you 
go. The solution is within its just a matter of finding it. Mack 





In [email protected], "Rod Scholl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's interesting, Genry, thanks...
> 
> Currently, each time I find my mind racing against my wishes, and a 
few seconds after deciding not to think about anything other 
than "blank" -- I find my disobediant mind off frolicking in the 
fields while meanwhile, I f-up what I'm currently working on.  I 
doubt I'm alone in this situation.  I figured practice at drawing my 
thoughts back under my control -- and even making deliberate 
training, such as sitting, might teach it by repetition.  Its working 
slowly...
> 
> However, your post brings up a hopeful method.  Rather than brining 
my mind back to the task (especially if it itself is all that 
critical) -- I'll follow the anxious thought... I don't mean to 
endulge in its thinking -- but to endulge in the feeling of my 
anxiousness, my pressured feeling, the sensation that something 
critical is being left undone.  Perhaps I should investigate the 
feeling, like looking for the source of a headache (the eybrows?... 
no... the neck?...no... clamping my jaw? ... yes!  Eureka, I'll stop 
THAT).  Maybe by following it to it source -- listening to it (or 
trying to 'become it', if you will) I will find what the fuss is 
about and soothe it.  Its likely something stupid like fixing my 
posture to breath easier -- or doing something silly on my task list 
which is worrisome -- or using my body which feels unused (exercise) -
- or who knows...  perhaps nothing, and then the question is, whether 
the anxiety is dispelled on its own.
> 
> What do you all think?  If I follow the source of the anxious 
feeling, rather than endulge it, and rather than fight it -- will I 
uncover anything -- or by finding nothing to uncover will it then 
reduce on its own?  Or is this just another anxious excuse to endulge 
the 'self'?
> 
> Rod Scholl
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rev Genryu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:38 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Zen] reflection
> 
> 
> 
> Not to entirely disagree, but how about instead of trying to break 
down the barriers, try to become the barrier/not separate yourself 
from the barrier, and see what happens?
> 
> Genryu
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: mackkup 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:35 AM
>   Subject: [Zen] reflection
> 
> 
> 
>   i constantly have to remind myself to look inside at my thoughts 
but 
>   very often i loose focus. outside distractions, i admit get in 
the 
>   way of my inner studies. life is as difficult as you make it. 
things 
>   happen to us in life and how we deal with it is what counts. i 
have 
>   put up many barriers in my life and now im working on breaking 
them 
>   down. its a long journey but all i can do is take one step at a 
time.
>   Mack
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 
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