Thank you Ian
Dear Ian your question was :
"Is it your understanding that this transformation is accomplished 
just through a deep letting go of categories?  Especially the 
categories of self/other, mind/body, me/you... or is there another 
way to explain how this transformation happens?" 

The deep letting go of categories - I prefer to call it "close the 
file of categorization"- only happens after a deep conviction that 
these categorizations only bring forth pain and poverty, even if 
they happen to give you in the begining a false taste of happiness 
or pleasure.Then, this man "closes the file of categorizations" and 
insists, deep inside himself, to experience life from a new light -a 
light free from these poverish and painful categorizations.
This is the non-grasping mind by which man meets life. This non-
grasping mind is not conditioned and it lets life modify it the way 
it wants. This mind becomes an integral part of life not separate 
from life, when this integration is complete then man has the Buddha 
Mind.

hsin
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In [email protected], Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you very much!  That is a wonderful explanation.
> 
> You say "this same previously conditioned mind is transformed into 
Mind 
> (with a capital M)"
> 
> Is it your understanding that this transformation is accomplished 
just 
> through a deep letting go of categories?  Especially the 
categories of 
> self/other, mind/body, me/you... or is there another way to 
explain how 
> this transformation happens?  Is it stillness of mind that allows 
one to 
> become free from categories?  Also, when you say "previously 
> conditioned"... does this mean that non-grasping mind is not 
> conditioned?  Would it be correct to say this is 
the "unconditioned" the 
> Buddha talked about?
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> >Dear Ian
> >Thank you for your post.
> >A non-grasping mind is a mind that does not have categories,
> >therefore does not experience life through the categories of fun 
or
> >no fun, a mind that is not oriented to pleasures or to pains, but 
a
> >mind without spesific  or particular orientation or in other 
words a
> >mind with no preferences.This non grasping mind is in perpetual
> >contact with life -not in contact with me, which is represented by
> >my preferences. This contact gives life its true experiential
> >qualities. The qualities that are not categorized or taste as fun 
or
> >no fun.This is mindfullness.
> >As for the grooves I mentioned in my previous post; these are the
> >habitual thought/feeling patterns that are due to the previous
> >conditiong of our minds that are triggered  when this conditioned
> >mind meets life -just like the grooves of the old wax record when
> >you use it with the old turn table and a stylus, it cannot but 
move
> >along these grooves.To levell these grooves is that your mind
> >becomes free from them then this same previously conditioned mind 
is
> >transformed into Mind (with a capital M).
> >
> >hsin
> >
> >================================================================
> >
> >
> >In [email protected], Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear hsin
> > >
> > > This is indeed a discussion group.  Your comments are very
> >welcome, thank
> > > you for sharing them.  I found them very interesting.  Are you
> >saying that
> > > fun is not experienced by non-grasping mind?  Or that the mind
> >remains
> > > unmoved by a fun experience?  I also wonder, what do you mean
> >by "leveling"
> > > the grooves?  How does this happen?
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > >I did not mean to offend you by my post. I was under the
> >impression
> > > >that this is a discussion group.
> > > >hsin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Roshi
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> >
> >
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